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post Mar 23 2020, 05:03 PM
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I find the corona pandemic scary on so many levels.

It hasn't really taken off here in Sweden yet, or is just starting to. 2 059 confirmed cases (but we test very few...) and 31 deaths, 15 of them today.

How are others doing? U.S. for example is worse off than we are. So are many other countries. Is eveyone here OK so far?
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post Mar 23 2020, 09:48 PM
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We're on our second week of our "shelter in place" order here in Santa Clara County (California). Apparently, there were a lot of groups using the parks in the area, so they're considering closing them all. (Until now, outdoor activities like walking, hiking, or running have been allowed as "essential activities" as long as you maintain appropriate social distancing.)
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post Mar 24 2020, 02:32 AM
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Be glad you have strict rules. Here the only thing that's disallowed is gatherings with more than 500 poeple... They've closed collages and univiersities, but everything else is open. We do too little too late. So did most western countries, but one would think that by now reallity would have hit.
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post Mar 25 2020, 05:12 AM
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I'm here! tongue.gif

Actually there's just a fraction of the normal number of people out in the streets here. We'll see how long that lasts when the spring arrives for real.

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post Mar 25 2020, 10:17 AM
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That's so strange. My friend who lives a little outside town and goes first by bus and then walks though the center of town each day says it's almost empty. But everywhere I go I think it's as usual or close to.

Odd things can be sold out in grocery stores though. I couldn't buy onions and garlic for instance. And why do people hoard toilet paper and canned meat? I wouldn't eat canned meat when a steak from the freezer is so much more tasty. There is no risk for a power outage that I've heard of.
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post Mar 25 2020, 12:47 PM
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Odd things can be sold out in grocery stores though.
Yeah, I heard a funny joke yesterday:

Hopefully there won't be a diarrhea virus outbreak right now. Can you imagine everyone rushing to the stores and buying all the nasal spray?
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post Mar 25 2020, 02:24 PM
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It's fun though that this seems to happen in all countries, the toilet paper hoarding. Toilet paper must be close to people's heart.

I always hoard, in a small scale. When there's a good price on meat, or for that matter, toilet paper. My freezer is full. The only thing I've bought more than usual of is butter. If I get ill I'll run out of milk and cream, but otherwise I can eat as usaul without having someone shop for me.
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post Mar 25 2020, 04:00 PM
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That's possible. Plus, I guess, toilet paper is part of the gerenal prepper kit. Wonder if thay buy camping stoves too? I've already got several, of course. biggrin.gif

I just want to add that I discovered I has spelled hoard wrong and corrected it before I read your post (where you spelled it correctly). tongue.gif
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post Apr 2 2020, 09:48 PM
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I don't know how Christian feels, but I hate my government so much right now. No readiness at all. The intensive care beds in Stockholm will be full already this weekend. 1/4 of old people's homes in Stockholm county are infected. And the mantra has been "we must protect the elderly". Very few of those people will even be offered intensive care. They'll die alone in their rooms because the caregivers don't dare to go in there since they don't have the protective gear needed in those places.

It may seem like we have few deaths, but we are a small country. The number for deaths per million citizens is higher for us than for the US, just to put it into perspective. And the curve has started to point sharply upwards only the last few days.

Many countries have it worse than we do - so far. But at least they tried their best once they realized the gravity of the situation. We didn't. This is so cynical it's unbelievable. The Swedish model shines. ninja.gif
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post Apr 3 2020, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE(pandy @ Apr 3 2020, 04:48 AM) *

I don't know how Christian feels

I got a sore throat since last night. ninja.gif


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post Apr 3 2020, 04:44 PM
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Hope you get it light or that you've got a common cold. sad.gif
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post Apr 3 2020, 06:11 PM
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Thanks, pandy! It feels exactly like a cold. But even then that still proves my precautions haven't worked. ninja.gif

Are you under house arrest now?
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post Apr 3 2020, 06:37 PM
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Me? No, I'm fit as a fiddle. And I plan to stay that way. I'm distancing big time. angry.gif

I've heard from a friend who has been down with cold like symptoms (cough but no runny nose) for two weeks. She says she normally gets well in just a few days. So it's probably corona. She isn't feeling very poorly at all. Takes part in meetings over phone and so on.

It's good to hear from people that have the light version. Previously I've only heard from a friend and her teenage son. They've got it really bad with respiratory problems. She even lost consciousness because of that. She went to the ER but was refused both care and testing. They are better now, but still take turns sleeping just in in case. The mother stopped breathing when she slept when it was worse and needed to be woken up. It was scary when they were the only ones I knew - I live alone and no one would wake me up. Horrible not to be able to assist them too. They are just a few minutes walk away. sad.gif
I've offered to take care of their dog, but they are afraid even the dog can spread the virus. I'm not. I draw the paranoia line at dogs. wink.gif
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post Apr 4 2020, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(pandy @ Apr 4 2020, 01:37 AM) *

It's good to hear from people that have the light version.

Yes, it's worth reminding oneself that the general public isn't expected to get very sick (if at all) from this virus. All the lockdowns are meant to protect high risk groups only, but everybody keep forgetting that.

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She even lost consciousness because of that. She went to the ER but was refused both care and testing.

Sounds strange. It might even have been a sign of some other serious condition that warrants investigation.

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The mother stopped breathing when she slept when it was worse and needed to be woken up.

I guess it could be sleep apnea as well, then again if she had all the other symptoms already...
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post Apr 4 2020, 09:56 AM
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That was scary too with my friends. They aren't exactly the target group. She is 47 and he is 18 or 19. Both are healthy and active. She smokes though but he doesn't.
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post Apr 7 2020, 11:00 PM
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I now know more of my acquaintances are stricken, 6 in total so far. Of those two need(ed) intensive care, one ought to have gotten care but didn't, one died at the hospital two days ago and only two have the light version. The guy who died was going to turn 75. The other guy in intensive care is only around 20 and formerly healthy. I don't like those numbers. sad.gif
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