unwanted white space (extra lines) within <pre></pre> Options

[allrounder]

Title says it all!

I use the <pre></pre> tags to get the exact bare bones layout I want yet the info is appearing on screen with extra lines either side of the text.

I've examined the html and can see no reason why this would be occuring. Thoughts?

[allrounder]

here's a link to an example:

the detail of the scorecard is enclosed in the <pre></pre> tags...Scorecard

and here's one that does work (albeit a bit nicer looking!) - Scorecard

This post has been edited by allrounder: Oct 26 2009, 11:05 PM

[pandy]

Come on now... You use PRE because you want to preserve whitespace, right? Yet you add blank lines in the source code.

CODE

Batsman       How Out        Bowler            R    M    B   4  6  FOW

L Ebsary      c. Coleman     Farrell          18   30   24         2/41

P Merrilees   run out (K Blackwell)            1    1    2         1/2

"The PRE element contains preformatted text. Visual browsers should render preformatted text in a fixed-width font, should not collapse whitespace, and should not wrap long lines"
http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/block/pre.html

Whitespace is (mainly) spaces, tabs and carriage returns.

[allrounder]

Hi Pandy

Thanks for replying but in my source code I DID not include blank lines - these appeared after the file was uploaded to the site.

I am well aware of what whitespace is but thanks for reminding me.

[pandy]

They are there in the source now anyhow. If you were aware of the problem, I don't understand your question. Especially since you say "I've examined the html and can see no reason why this would be occurring.".

[allrounder]

I can see they are there in the web version - but they are not there in my original code.

I want to know what is causing them to appear and how I can stop it.

[pandy]

I don't know. Have you tried uploading the file again?

[allrounder]

yes, several times

[allrounder]

I've even saved the version appearing online and opened that up only to see no blank lines??

[pandy]

I don't understand how that can happen since the blank lines are there in the source. How did you download it? View source?

[allrounder]

I've tried fixing it two ways.

View source which shows the line breaks as you've found - I saved that, deleted the blank lines and reloaded. Same result.

I also did "save target as" but no blank lines showed in that when opened!

[Christian J]

Some FTP programs may add extra newlines depending on the text editor used: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline#Common_problems

[allrounder]

Thanks for that info.

I use either CoffeeCup's HTML editor or notepad to make quick changes - doesn't seem to matter which one I use.

This post has been edited by allrounder: Oct 27 2009, 08:23 PM

[pandy]

I assumed the other, correct, document was produced and uploaded in the same way. Was it?

What about binary mode then? Can you have turned that on by mistake in your FTP client?

[allrounder]

The correct document was produced the same way.

I will check the FTP settings but I'm pretty sure it's done automatically...

[pandy]

Hej, upload another document with a few lines in it and see if it happens to that too.

[allrounder]

same thing happens...

This post has been edited by allrounder: Oct 27 2009, 10:03 PM

[allrounder]

does it help if I say the extra blank lines are appearing between every line of code but only the ones between the <pre></pre> tags are affecting the webview (as you'd expect)??

[pandy]

I have no idea if something on the server can cause this. Seems far-fetched, but maybe it's possible.

[Christian J]

does it help if I say the extra blank lines are appearing between every line of code

Sounds like the newline problem I linked to above.