Marquees in CSS, Do they work? Options

[Skibum1]

Hello,

I am fairly familiar with html.
I am trying to convert old html marquee code to CSS.
However, I am having trouble getting it to work in any browser.
The below underlined html gives me a message:
"The property is marked invalid because it's not supported by current schema"

If anybody can enlighten me as to this, it would be greatly appreciated...
I have tried different formatting to no avail.


.marquee.scroll {
-webkit-marquee: left medium infinite scroll normal;
overflow-x: -webkit-marquee;
font-size: x-large;
font-family: Arial;
font-weight: bold;
font-style: normal;
font-variant: small-caps;
color: #FFFFFF;
text-decoration: none;
overflow: scroll;
position: inherit;
}

Ken
Internet Consultant
Virtech

[pandy]

Even if you got it to work it would only work in webkit browsers.

Does the element that the selector should match have both the classes .scroll and .marquee?

I haven't looked into this newfangled marquee, but I found this page. Maybe it's of help.
http://davidwalsh.name/webkit-marquee-css

[Skibum1]

Even if you got it to work it would only work in webkit browsers.

Does the element that the selector should match have both the classes .scroll and .marquee?

I haven't looked into this newfangled marquee, but I found this page. Maybe it's of help.
http://davidwalsh.name/webkit-marquee-css

Yes , I've tried either way.
I've seen Walsh Blog, but his example has the same problem.

The only way to get the page validated and save the marquee is CSS or JS, Google doesn't like a lot of JS..

The search goes on...

[Christian J]

Google shouldn't mind any JS --at least as long as it's not used to hide content (in order to manipulate search engines), or if content is created with it (in which case search engines may fail to index it).

A bigger problem IMO is that marquees are terribly distracting to users, making it very hard to concentrate on the rest of the page.

[pandy]

Does the element that the selector should match have both the classes .scroll and .marquee?

[Skibum1]

Google shouldn't mind any JS --at least as long as it's not used to hide content (in order to manipulate search engines), or if content is created with it (in which case search engines may fail to index it).

A bigger problem IMO is that marquees are terribly distracting to users, making it very hard to concentrate on the rest of the page.

Thing is the only text is a < to represent a bullet.
It's an old website in internet years, but #1 in Google for years.
After PENGUIN we went from 1 to 7 on page 1 under primary keyword phrase.
After much research and discussions at the new google support site, it was hinted(as usual) that we needed to get into step by validating our pages and losing old links.
We could validate everything but the darn bullet marquee that has kind of been a trademark over the past 10 years.

It was created in Frontpage but of course it's not supported anymore.

I totally agree about marquees being distracting, except in this case.

[pandy]

Would you mind terribly answering my question above? Since you don't show the page I can't look for myself.

[Skibum1]

Would you mind terribly answering my question above? Since you don't show the page I can't look for myself.

This page has been validated only after marquee was deleted
XHTML 1.0 Transitional
http://www.tuffsteel.com/index.html

This is an older page with the old marquee (created in FP)and no validation.
http://www.tuffsteel.com/FAQ's.html

Does this shed some light on the issue at hand?

[Skibum1]

Please note:
I did a lot of corrections on index.html to get it validated.
The only thing I haven't resolved is the marquee, which is why it's not there at this time.

[pandy]

Not if the new marquee thing isn't there.

I'm trying to make sure that the element you use for the CSS marquee really has double classes, or your rule will never work.

This

CODE

.marquee.scroll {...}

would match an element with both the classes "marquee" and "scroll". For example this.

CODE

<div class="scroll marquee">

If that's what you have it's fine. If you have named a class "marquee.scroll" it isn't likely to work.

[Skibum1]

Ok. How bout this?

html:
<td valign="bottom">
<table style="width: 100%">
<tr>
<td class="style37"><span class="marquee">-</span></td>
</tr>
</table>

CSS Code:
.marquee {
overflow: scroll;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: x-large;
font-weight: bold;
font-style: normal;
color: #FFFFFF;

}

[Skibum1]

Google shouldn't mind any JS

Unfortunetly even JS (especially old JS) turns up validation errors..
and right now page validation weighs heavier in Google algorithm than ever before(according to google support)

Here's some error examples(mostly JS) although some can be corrected easily, some can't:
Bottom line is Google has now become an internet cop. Shape up your code or Ship Out....
If anybody good with JS can help, I could get this code to pass validation assuming I can't get it to work with CSS..which is why this thread started to begin with.

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ALine 112, Column 239: an attribute specification must start with a name or name token…w:hidden;background-color:'+tcolour+'"'; if (moStop) tick += ' onmouseover="cp…
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An attribute name (and some attribute values) must start with one of a restricted set of characters. This error usually indicates that you have failed to add a closing quotation mark on a previous attribute value (so the attribute value looks like the start of a new attribute) or have used an attribute that is not defined (usually a typo in a common attribute name).

Line 112, Column 239: document type does not allow element "div" here…w:hidden;background-color:'+tcolour+'"'; if (moStop) tick += ' onmouseover="cp…
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The element named above was found in a context where it is not allowed. This could mean that you have incorrectly nested elements -- such as a "style" element in the "body" section instead of inside "head" -- or two elements that overlap (which is not allowed).

One common cause for this error is the use of XHTML syntax in HTML documents. Due to HTML's rules of implicitly closed elements, this error can create cascading effects. For instance, using XHTML's "self-closing" tags for "meta" and "link" in the "head" section of a HTML document may cause the parser to infer the end of the "head" section and the beginning of the "body" section (where "link" and "meta" are not allowed; hence the reported error).

Line 112, Column 615: document type does not allow element "span" here…th))+"px"; mq.innerHTML='<span id="tx">'+content+'<\/span>'; aw = document.get…
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The element named above was found in a context where it is not allowed. This could mean that you have incorrectly nested elements -- such as a "style" element in the "body" section instead of inside "head" -- or two elements that overlap (which is not allowed).

One common cause for this error is the use of XHTML syntax in HTML documents. Due to HTML's rules of implicitly closed elements, this error can create cascading effects. For instance, using XHTML's "self-closing" tags for "meta" and "link" in the "head" section of a HTML document may cause the parser to infer the end of the "head" section and the beginning of the "body" section (where "link" and "meta" are not allowed; hence the reported error).

Line 112, Column 627: character "<" is the first character of a delimiter but occurred as data…q.innerHTML='<span id="tx">'+content+'<\/span>'; aw = document.getElementById(…
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This message may appear in several cases:
•You tried to include the "<" character in your page: you should escape it as "&lt;"
•You used an unescaped ampersand "&": this may be valid in some contexts, but it is recommended to use "&amp;", which is always safe.
•Another possibility is that you forgot to close quotes in a previous tag.

Line 114, Column 9: end tag for "span" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified</script>
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You may have neglected to close an element, or perhaps you meant to "self-close" an element, that is, ending it with "/>" instead of ">".

Line 112, Column 602: start tag was here…parseInt(tWidth))+"px"; mq.innerHTML='<span id="tx">'+content+'<\/span>'; aw =…

This post has been edited by Skibum1: Nov 24 2012, 04:09 PM

[pandy]

Ok. How bout this?

html:
<td valign="bottom">
<table style="width: 100%">
<tr>
<td class="style37"><span class="marquee">-</span></td>
</tr>
</table>

CSS Code:
.marquee {
overflow: scroll;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: x-large;
font-weight: bold;
font-style: normal;
color: #FFFFFF;

}

What about it? That won't create a marquee and you still haven't answered my question. Which make me think I guessed right about why the marquee thing didn't work in webkit.

[pandy]

Google shouldn't mind any JS

Unfortunetly even JS (especially old JS) turns up validation errors..
and right now page validation weighs heavier in Google algorithm than ever before(according to google support)

Here's some error examples although some can be corrected easily, some can't:
Bottom line is Google has now become an internet cop. Shape up code or Ship Out.

Google and validation are two different things. If you want help with validation errors show the HTML you are validating. This would be so much quicker if you didn't keep us guessing about everything.

[Skibum1]

This is the page I am developing for JS marquee,with only 4 errors, mostly JS errors

http://www.tuffsteel.com/index-jsmarquee.html

Code:

[codebox]<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<link rel="shortcut icon" href="target.ico" type="image/x-icon" />

<title>Target Stands | Hardened Targets | Tuffsteel Mfg</title>
<meta name="description" content=
"Institutional Quality Target Stands-Hardened steel Targets-Direct From Mfg $32.00 & up-IDPA/IPSC Sizes Gov & LE Orders Filled, LE & Instructor Discounts" />
<meta name="keywords" content=
"target stands,target stand,shooting stand,free printable targets,free downloadable targets,conceal carry,CCW, sighting in,hunting,shooting,competition,targets,gun,pistol,law enforcement,rifle,scope,bullet,reloading, hardened targets" />

<style type="text/css">
/*<![CDATA[*/
<!--
.style25 {
border-collapse: collapse;
border-style: solid;
border-width: 2px;
}
.style26 {
border-width: 0px;
}
.style27 {
border-left-style: solid;
border-left-color: inherit;
border-left-width: 0px;
border-right-style: solid;
border-right-color: inherit;
border-right-width: 0px;
border-top-style: solid;
border-bottom-style: solid;
border-bottom-color: inherit;
border-bottom-width: 0px;
}
.style28 {
background-color: #FFFFFF;
}
.style29 {
font-style: italic;
}
.style30 {
text-decoration: none;
}
.style31 {
text-decoration: none;
color: #FF0000;
}
.style33 {
text-transform: uppercase;
}
.style34 {
border-width: 0px;
margin-top: 0px;
}
.style35 {
text-align: left;
}
-->
/*]]>*/
</style>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="index.css" />
<style type="text/css">
/*<![CDATA[*/
body {
background-color: #C0C0C0;
}
body.c24 {TEXT-ALIGN: center}
span.c23 {font-size: 80%}
td.c22 {background-color: #C0C0C0}
td.c21 {background-color: #6699FF}
table.c20 {width: 200px;}
img.c19 {float: right}
table.c18 {BORDER-RIGHT: #000080 5px solid; BORDER-TOP: #000080 5px solid; BACKGROUND: #ffffff; BORDER-LEFT: #000080 5px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #000080 5px solid}
span.c17 {font-size: 70%}
span.c16 {background-color: #FFFF00}
div.c15 {text-align: left}
table.c14 {BACKGROUND-POSITION: 0% 0%; BACKGROUND-ATTACHMENT: scroll; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: none; BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat; width: 100%;}
p.c13 {font-size: 80%}
p.c12 {text-align: left}
span.c11 {background-color: #FFFF00; font-style:italic}
span.c10 {color: #FF0000}
li.c9 {height: 16px}
h5.c8 {text-align: center}
td.c7 {
border-color: #666666;
background-color: #FFFFFF;
}
div.c6 {text-align: center}
table.c5 {background-color: #808080}
span.c4 {color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 80%}
span.c3 {color: #000080; font-family: Arial; font-size: 28pt}
span.c2 {color: #FFFFFF; font-size: 150%}
marquee.c1 {font-family: Arial; font-size: 14pt; color: #FFFFFF; font-weight: bold}
/*]]>*/
.style36 {
font-size: medium;
font-weight: bold;
}
</style>
<script type="text/javascript">
var tWidth='800px'; // width (in pixels)
var tHeight='26px'; // height (in pixels)
var tcolour='#808080'; // background colour:
var moStop=false; // pause on mouseover (true or false)
var fontfamily = 'arial,sans-serif'; // font for content
var tSpeed=19; // scroll speed (1 = slow, 5 = fast)

// enter your ticker content here (use \/ and \' in place of / and ' respectively)
var content='<';

var cps=-tSpeed; var aw, mq; var fsz = parseInt(tHeight) - 4; function startticker(){if (document.getElementById) {var tick = '<div style="position:relative;width:'+tWidth+';height:'+tHeight+';overflow:hidden;background-color:'+tcolour+'"'; if (moStop) tick += ' onmouseover="cps=0" onmouseout="cps=-tSpeed"'; tick +='><div id="mq" style="position:absolute;left:0px;top:0px;font-family:'+fontfamily+';font-size:'+fsz+'px;white-space:nowrap;"></div></div>'; document.getElementById('ticker').innerHTML = tick; mq = document.getElementById("mq"); mq.style.left=(10+parseInt(tWidth))+"px"; mq.innerHTML='<span id="tx">'+content+'<\/span>'; aw = document.getElementById("tx").offsetWidth; lefttime=setInterval("scrollticker()",50);}} function scrollticker(){mq.style.left = (parseInt(mq.style.left)>(-10 - aw)) ?
mq.style.left = parseInt(mq.style.left)+cps+"px": parseInt(tWidth)+10+"px";} window.onload=startticker;
</script>

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We have spent many an afternoon shooting in windy weather in
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<p>Plus, for more stability these stands have supports that
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<p>When you are at a public range, there is usually not the
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staple silhouette cut-outs directly to the furring strips.<br />
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The stand is constructed of <a href="Equipment.html">
Digitally MiG welded</a> , 16 & 11 gauge(not 18) high
quality hot-rolled square steel tubing-not angle iron.. It
is designed to hold 1"x2" furring strips as the uprights for
the targets (see pics). Shoot many targets of all sizes and
shapes before the cardboard or the furring strips need to be
replaced.</p>

<p>The <a href="Prorangemodel.htm" target="_blank">Pro Range
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superior stability, especially when freestanding. Distance
between uprights is 22". When using 4 ft. furring strips, <a href=
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accommodated. The legs are drilled to allow for staking in
windy weather.<br />
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The low profile makes it almost impossible to damage the
stand itself. You have to be a really bad shot (or good
shot) to hit the permanent frame.<br />
<br />
The stands weigh about 5-6 lbs. depending on model. We paint
them with a generous coat of industrial strength red oxide
primer, so they are ready for painting if desired . We
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order page</a> for details This is painted over the primer
coat, not on bare metal.</p>

<p>We have also designed them to drain water from the
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<p>Furring strips cost about $.75 each (8' sections)if you
can't pick them up for free somewhere. They are used for
just about everything on construction sites and can be cut
to height for individual shooting conditions and/or styles.<br />
<br />
For hunting rifle sight-ins we recommend 3 to 4 ft. For
handgun defense practice a little higher, 4-5 ft.<br />
<br />
The 1"x2" wood furring strips (not included)usually take
quite a pounding before they expire. We've gone many hours
of intense
<a href="Training.html">defensive handgun practice</a>
without having to replace them. (About 500 rounds per
person/per day).</p>

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set up and take down. Lightweight-5.5 lbs. Almost impossible
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<li><span>Lightweight</span> for easy deployment at 5.5
lbs.(Pro Range 22, less for other models)</li>

<li>2 sizes available. 22" & 18" (both work for paper
targets of all sizes)</li>

<li>18" model specifically designed for <a href=
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shooting(cardboard cutout targets).</li>

<li>Every stand is painted with <a href="primer.html">
industrial red primer</a>-You paint to suit (or not)
Custom colors painted over primer-never bare steel-(<a href="primer.html">Why
is this important</a>?)  See the <a href=
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order page</a> for details.</li>

<li>Not Available in stores</li>

<li>Not a part-time venture.</li>

<li>Simple <span>Freestanding one piece design</span> 
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stability</span></li>

<li>Low profile <span>heavy duty steel.</span> Sturdiest
stand of this type available.</li>

<li>Institutional Duty quality. Extra heavy digital welds.
Can be bolted to concrete floors.</li>

<li><a target="_blank" href="Equipment.html">Machined
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<li>Each is handmade by an American in the USA!</li>

<li><span>Stake-able legs</span> make this a Windproof
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<li><a href="Equipment.html">Digitally MiG Welded</a></li>

<li>No special targets or accessories to buy- No parts to
keep track of. </li>

<li>Uses 2- 1x2 furring strips for target frame (not
included)</li>

<li>Takes almost any size target limited only by the size
cardboard backing you use.</li>

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<p class="c12">"<span class="c11">I received
my stands today. I just wanted to say 'thank
you'. I'm really pleased that a good
American company, in my own state, is
producing such a high quality product. I
showed them to a neighbor who is a welder in
the oil fields. He was highly impressed. He
could not believe the value for the money"</span></p>

<p class="c12"><span class="c11">Matt
Chambers-Grand Junction, CO<br /></span></p>
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<p class="c13"><em><strong><span class="style9">
"Thanks guys, I appreciate it and so will
the Scouts. I saw your product at an
instructor training session last Sat and was
blown away. The stands worked perfectly,
stacked compactly, staked down fine even
during a howling wind, etc, etc. The
simplicity of the design and their
effectiveness won me over so I ordered
enough for a full range setup. I was going
down the path of using a-frames and small
rope, but this is 10 times simpler and more
durable."</span></strong></em></p>

<p class="c13"><em><strong><span class="style9">
Stephen Harpham-Littleton, CO</span></strong></em></p>

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Available</span></a><br />
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<h3>Shooting Solutions</h3>

<p><br />
Target shooting has been a problem since man invented the
sling shot. How can you secure your target, what method is
the most effeciant, how can you shoot without collatoral
damage, how can you record your results.<br />
<br />
You probably shoot in some pretty barren and windy areas
with only rocks, trash or the occasional crow to shoot at.
We have spent many an afternoon shooting in windy weather in
the mountains. Our problem now is having to wait while other
shooters go out to re-erect their blown down targets!<br />
<br />
There are many stands on the market so why would you want
this one? Simple. It's Made in America , 100% dependable
heavy duty design. No special hardware or pieces to keep
track of. No special targets to buy. It has a Lifetime
Guarantee and the price is right. <a href=
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View Products</a>  See <a href="torture_test.htm">
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<h3>Value</h3>

<p>Since we are the manufacturer, we can offer wholesale
prices starting at $32.50. If you had a local fabrication
shop make these, they would cost at least $65 apiece.
Additionally, this is a stand you should never need to
replace. Target stand manufacturers base their business on
the fact that the stands they sell have to be replaced
eventually. These stands are designed to last a
lifetime....period.<a href="guarantee.htm"></a></p>

<p>Is  your department paying highly paid personnel to
build and repair target stands? If the answer is yes, you
are wasting valuable human resources</p>

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<h3>Stability</h3>

<p>Plus, for more stability these stands have supports that
are longer("20) and legs that are drilled for staking in
windy weather. The "18 inch models still have "20 legs. We
even <a target="_blank"
href="Equipment.html">machine the center pieces</a> for a
more precise fit</p>

<h3>Versatility</h3>

<p>When you are at a public range, there is usually not the
freedom to change distances easily. This is crucial for
effective training. Now you can stay on the "common" firing
line and still change distances easily without risking your
life. They are excellent for multiple target acquisition
when placed strategically on a course.<a href=
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Now</a><br />
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<img height="18" src="images/new.jpg"
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"_blank"><span class="c10">IDPA/IPSC size model available</span></a></p>

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"http://www.tuffsteel.com/store/agoracart55/agora.cgi?product=TARGETSTANDS">
Click here for Order Page</a><br />
<br />
Simple, dependable, heavy duty, light weight and best of
all, it works for any kind of paper target. You can also
staple silhouette cut-outs directly to the furring strips.<br />
<br />
The stand is constructed of <a href="Equipment.html">
Digitally MiG welded</a> , 16 & 11 gauge(not 18) high
quality hot-rolled square steel tubing-not angle iron.. It
is designed to hold 1"x2" furring strips as the uprights for
the targets (see pics). Shoot many targets of all sizes and
shapes before the cardboard or the furring strips need to be
replaced.</p>

<p>The <a href="Prorangemodel.htm" target="_blank">Pro Range
Model</a> has thicker walled uprights for a more wobble free
furring strip fit. <a href="Prorangemodel.htm" target="_blank">
Click here for picture</a><br />
<br />
The overall size is 24" wide by 6" high with 20" legs for
superior stability, especially when freestanding. Distance
between uprights is 22". When using 4 ft. furring strips, <a href=
"images/splayed.gif">targets 18" up to 36" wide</a> can be
accommodated. The legs are drilled to allow for staking in
windy weather.<br />
<br />
The low profile makes it almost impossible to damage the
stand itself. You have to be a really bad shot (or good
shot) to hit the permanent frame.<br />
<br />
The stands weigh about 5-6 lbs. depending on model. We paint
them with a generous coat of industrial strength red oxide
primer, so they are ready for painting if desired . We
charge $5.00 for a custom color. See the <a href=
"http://www.tuffsteel.com/store/agoracart55/agora.cgi?product=TARGETSTANDS">
order page</a> for details This is painted over the primer
coat, not on bare metal.</p>

<p>We have also designed them to drain water from the
uprights if for some reason they are left out in the rain.</p>

<p>Furring strips cost about $.75 each (8' sections)if you
can't pick them up for free somewhere. They are used for
just about everything on construction sites and can be cut
to height for individual shooting conditions and/or styles.<br />
<br />
For hunting rifle sight-ins we recommend 3 to 4 ft. For
handgun defense practice a little higher, 4-5 ft.<br />
<br />
The 1"x2" wood furring strips (not included)usually take
quite a pounding before they expire. We've gone many hours
of intense
<a href="Training.html">defensive handgun practice</a>
without having to replace them. (About 500 rounds per
person/per day).</p>

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available</span></a></p>

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P.O. Box 698<br />
Dillon, CO 80435</p>
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This post has been edited by Christian J: Nov 24 2012, 06:06 PM

[pandy]

If you write XHTML use linked JS or you must add the CDATA shebang.
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#h-4.8

It's a good idea to always use external JS and CSS files, no matter what the markup flavour is.

The errors that turn up after correcting that seems to be because of illegal characters.

[Christian J]

page validation weighs heavier in Google algorithm than ever before(according to google support)

That sounds odd, can you link to the Google text in question?

[Christian J]

Regarding the validator errors, maybe they are caused by this part:

CODE

var content='<';

which a validator may consider the beginning of an HTML tag (compare the W3C validator's report, which mentions it in its first warning). Test if an HTML entity works better.

Also, JS document.write is not allowed in proper XHTML (see http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2004/xhtml-faq#docwrite ), even in external JS files (though it may not always be caught by an XHTML validator). AFAIK this example should cause an error because the "parent" of the B element is unrecognized:

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document.write('<b>Send  
...

but for some reason it doesn't.

[Christian J]

Regarding the validator errors, maybe they are caused by this part:

Tested and it doesn't seem to make any difference without it.

Pandy's CDATA suggestion seems to work, though.