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Christian J
post Jun 16 2010, 05:28 PM
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I'm finally going to try learning MySQL, and have installed a MySQL server on my computer (Windows with Apache and PHP). After some confusion I found that in order to succeed with PHP mysql_connect() I needed the username "root" and the MySQL root password created during the installation. Related questions:

- Is a root password necessary or useful on an offline testing server? Is it practical to make a new user account (with passwords?) in addition to root for each site I'm testing offline?

- Any other security precautions? For example there's a "skip-networking" directive, which stops MySQL from listening on a TCP/IP port.

- In phpinfo.php the "mysql.default_user" and "mysql.default_password" directives are listed. What are they used for? Apparently they're not the same as the MySQL root and password.

- What is http://www.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.sql.safe-mode used for? When enabled mysql_connect() fails, apparently because it makes PHP ignore my root password. So when do you use safe mode --when passwords are not used (sounds contradictory)?

- Anything else to think of, so that my offline configurations won't differ too much from what online webhosts look like? I don't have any web host offering MySQL, so I can't check.
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Brian Chandler
post Jun 17 2010, 09:05 AM
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The short answers is that I don't know: I use mysql on my hosting service (pair), and am saved having to administer the db server.

For each DB I create (using the pair web interface) I get new user names (actually three: full, read-write, and read-only) and passwords. I *guess* that you need the mysql _root_ password to do things like Create new database.

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In phpinfo.php the "mysql.default_user" and "mysql.default_password" directives are listed. What are they used for?


I guess (again) that these are defaults php will use to connect to mysql. In a low/zero security system this would mean you don't need to suppy them to the mysql_connect() function. Perhaps?

At some stage I must have an offline system for testing my shop. I would be grateful to hear any feedback on how you get on.
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post Jun 17 2010, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(Brian Chandler @ Jun 17 2010, 04:05 PM) *

I use mysql on my hosting service (pair), and am saved having to administer the db server.

Does that mean you must test DB-related PHP scripts online too, or are there tricks you can use to test without uploading them (like temporarily substituting the DB data with e.g. a PHP array)? If so maybe I don't really need an offline DB.

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I guess (again) that these are defaults php will use to connect to mysql. In a low/zero security system this would mean you don't need to suppy them to the mysql_connect() function. Perhaps?

Could be. Can't remember if the root password was mandatory during the MySQL installation, if not the PHP defaults make sense.

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At some stage I must have an offline system for testing my shop. I would be grateful to hear any feedback on how you get on.

So far it's just as terrible as I recalled it was last time I tried (and gave up). Can't even find a link to the MySQL manual on the site (Google found it though).
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post Jun 17 2010, 05:48 PM
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I've never set up MySQL locally. It's been years since I even had Apache installed. Not much point anymore when it's almost as quick to play on the remote server with the advantage of being in the environment the stuff is supposed to work in all along.
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post Jun 17 2010, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(pandy @ Jun 18 2010, 12:48 AM) *

Not much point anymore when it's almost as quick to play on the remote server with the advantage of being in the environment the stuff is supposed to work in all along.

That sounds pretty persuasive, but how about fixing errors on published pages? I rather do things like that offline, without any stress. When it comes to databases coding mistakes may even distort the data, so again it may be safer to work with a dummy DB offline.
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Christian J   MySQL root password and other configuration issues   Jun 16 2010, 05:28 PM
Brian Chandler   The short answers is that I don't know: I use ...   Jun 17 2010, 09:05 AM
Christian J   I use mysql on my hosting service (pair), and am ...   Jun 17 2010, 12:16 PM
pandy   I've never set up MySQL locally. It's bee...   Jun 17 2010, 05:48 PM
Christian J   Not much point anymore when it's almost as qu...   Jun 17 2010, 06:50 PM
pandy   You set up a playground area on the server. :)   Jun 17 2010, 07:49 PM
Christian J   You set up a playground area on the server. :) ...   Jun 18 2010, 05:50 AM
pandy   No, not unless its something very important. The s...   Jun 18 2010, 11:16 AM
Christian J   I would be grateful to hear any feedback on how y...   Jun 19 2010, 05:13 PM
pandy   So it works. :P   Jun 19 2010, 10:18 PM
Brian Chandler   I would be grateful to hear any feedback on how ...   Jun 20 2010, 12:23 AM
Christian J   I recommend using phpmyadmin (what a dreadful nam...   Jun 20 2010, 07:28 AM
Brian Chandler   [quote name='Brian Chandler' post='48812' date='J...   Jun 20 2010, 01:40 PM
Frederiek   Or, simply use SQLite.   Jun 19 2010, 07:08 AM
Christian J   Or, simply use SQLite. But then the web host mus...   Jun 19 2010, 02:40 PM
Frederiek   [quote name='Frederiek' post='48795' date='Jun 19...   Jun 20 2010, 12:26 PM
Brian Chandler   [quote name='Frederiek' post='48795' date='Jun 1...   Jun 20 2010, 01:45 PM
Christian J   I guess being bundled doesn't guarantee all we...   Jun 20 2010, 02:21 PM
geoffmerritt   I have Xampp for windows running on my laptop, whi...   Jun 20 2010, 02:59 AM
Christian J   Using root in mysql as a user name should be avoi...   Jun 20 2010, 07:40 AM
pandy   You usually don't have root anything on a shar...   Jun 20 2010, 07:59 AM
geoffmerritt   Using root in mysql as a user name should be avo...   Jun 20 2010, 08:27 AM
Christian J   SQLite enabled and tested! Indeed it's muc...   Jun 20 2010, 04:21 PM
Christian J   http://devzone.zend.com/article/760-SQLite...uctio...   Jun 21 2010, 06:11 AM
Brian Chandler   http://devzone.zend.com/article/760-SQLite...ucti...   Jun 21 2010, 06:46 AM
Christian J   (You understand how sql injection works?) Only ...   Jun 21 2010, 08:58 AM
Brian Chandler   I'm sorry, I was only sketching -- you need ...   Jun 21 2010, 10:08 AM
Christian J   typically you use mysql_real_escape_string() to e...   Jun 21 2010, 12:11 PM
Brian Chandler   [quote name='Brian Chandler' post='48858' date='J...   Jun 21 2010, 10:33 PM
Christian J   This is what gets concatenated into the query So...   Jun 22 2010, 11:04 AM
Brian Chandler   [quote name='Brian Chandler' post='48871' date='J...   Jun 22 2010, 01:16 PM


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