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| pandy |
 Aug 18 2020, 12:27 PM
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I needn't. Just rightclick is enough. Seems everything is different for us.
 But it doesn't help. The path field is grayed out whatever I do. I suspect it isn't a path, more of a command maybe. |
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| CharlesEF |
Aug 18 2020, 12:33 PM
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Programming Fanatic Group: Members Posts: 1,981 Joined: 27-April 13 From: Edinburg, Texas Member No.: 19,088 |
It's been awhile but I seem to remember coming across some icons like that, greyed out/blank target field. Don't remember much else about them.
Yes, seems our installations are different, for whatever reason. I can't see classic menu vs normal menu as the only reason. |
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| Christian J |
Aug 18 2020, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(CharlesEF @ Aug 18 2020, 02:49 AM)  My Edge is located at '"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe" --profile-directory=Default'. This is copied from my taskbar shortcut. Same here. Didn't know about the Shift+rightclick trick, so I had to: open the Start menu > find Microsoft Edge in the App list > Right-click and open the More submenu > click Open file location, which opened C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs > then I could finally right-click the real shortcut and choose Properies.  |
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| Christian J |
Aug 18 2020, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(pandy @ Aug 18 2020, 03:08 AM) This is very strange. I don't have any msedge.exe. Are you still using the old EdgeHTML-based Edge browser? The new Chromium-based Edge has a different icon than in your screenshot. |
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| pandy |
Aug 18 2020, 02:31 PM
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No idea! I thought Microsoft kept everything updated for me now.
 QUOTE Didn't know about the Shift+rightclick trick, so I had to: open the Start menu > find Microsoft Edge in the App list > Right-click and open the More submenu > click Open file location, which opened C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs > then I could finally right-click the real shortcut and choose Properies.   |
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| Christian J |
Aug 18 2020, 02:33 PM
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I don't have that App Settings option is my More menu.
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| pandy |
Aug 18 2020, 02:34 PM
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I tried to find out what version i have (from within Edge). There is no About on the menu and can't find any other entry that tells me the version either.
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| Christian J |
Aug 18 2020, 02:59 PM
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In the Chromium Edge version it's in a submenu to Help and Feedback.
You can also click the "..."-icon at the top right of the browser window and choose Settings, then the About menu will appear at the bottom left. (You can tell "UX-specialists" have had a hand in all this.) |
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| pandy |
Aug 18 2020, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(Christian J @ Aug 18 2020, 09:59 PM) In the Chromium Edge version it's in a submenu to Help and Feedback. Nope. QUOTE You can also click the "..."-icon at the top right of the browser window and choose Settings, then the About menu will appear at the bottom left. No About menu, but the version is there, at the bottom of Settings.  Microsoft Edge 44.18362.449.0 Microsoft EdgeHTML 18.18363 Guess that's the old one. Maybe it's good someone has that? QUOTE (You can tell "UX-specialists" have had a hand in all this.) I don't know what UX is and I'm not sure I want to know. User Experience? |
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| Christian J |
Aug 18 2020, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(pandy @ Aug 18 2020, 10:31 PM) Guess that's the old one. Maybe it's good someone has that? See how long it lasts, mine was simply overwritten by the Chromium version, but I still have IE11. QUOTE I don't know what UX is and I'm not sure I want to know. User Experience? Yes: https://www.nngroup.com/articles/definition-user-experience/ "UX" may also be used as a buzz word by designers that don't really care about its meaning (just a hunch I got). |
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| pandy |
Aug 18 2020, 04:18 PM
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Maybe UX is good together with jQuery.
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| CharlesEF |
Aug 19 2020, 04:00 AM
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Programming Fanatic Group: Members Posts: 1,981 Joined: 27-April 13 From: Edinburg, Texas Member No.: 19,088 |
For me, Microsoft Edge: Version 84.0.522.61 (Official build) (64-bit). Strange how the path I posted points to a x86 directory when the program states it is x64
Also, I do see 'App Settings', but only when I right click items in the menu. I see different options when I right click an icon in the quick launch bar (Windows calls it 'Pin to taskbar'). I also see different options when I hold down the SHIFT key and right click a quick launch icon (MS Edge has a 'Create shortcut' option). |
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| pandy |
Aug 19 2020, 04:23 AM
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It seems Win10 is ever-changing. I notice this when searching the web for help. Almost every description of circumstances differs.
My original bugs with file associations and keyboard shortcuts also change with windows updates. For a while now my chosen association for .txt works, without me doing anything about it. The keyboard shortcut for opening IrfanView also works now. But it worked from start. Then it stopped to work. Came back. Stopped to work... Since a while I can turn off UAC. But I can't set it to something moderate. From the beginning I could do nothing about it. The only problem that doesn't change is that some programs don't want to run at startup. I've gotten used to have a bunch of icons in a corner of the desktop and click them first thing if the computer has been properly turned off. But I usually let it hibernate. I turn it off properly only when I get the task bar bug that lets program windows cover the task bar.  I think I've got every Win10 bug there is. I should get a prize! |
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| CharlesEF |
Aug 19 2020, 01:40 PM
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Programming Fanatic Group: Members Posts: 1,981 Joined: 27-April 13 From: Edinburg, Texas Member No.: 19,088 |
Yes, I have that problem also. Not all startup programs load when starting Windows. For me it seems to happen more during 'Restart'. Doesn't happen as much when doing a cold boot.
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| pandy |
Aug 19 2020, 02:48 PM
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For me it doesn't matter how I boot.
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| Christian J |
Aug 28 2020, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(Christian J @ Jul 31 2020, 09:30 PM) When trying to login the other day I got a splash screen saying: QUOTE Let's finish setting up your device Your device needs to connect to a few more Microsoft services to help you work more easily and securely across all your devices. ...followed by ads for Onedrive, Microsoft 365 subscriptions, etc. In the bottom left corner was a small, ominous "Skip for now" link that closed it. Now I got this again.  Is there are any way to disable it? I've already turned off all "suggestions" since long time. A web search mostly linked to this very forum thread, as if I'm the only one that is getting it (or cares). Maybe Microsoft detects that I'm refusing all of their cloud services, and is doubling the effort. |
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| pandy |
Aug 28 2020, 02:46 PM
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Obviously they target you.
Sorry, I don't know. I've learnt very little about Win10 so far and I'm not inspired to learn more. It's hard to google these things. I mean, what's even the thing you get called? |
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| Christian J |
Aug 28 2020, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(pandy @ Aug 28 2020, 09:46 PM) I've learnt very little about Win10 so far and I'm not inspired to learn more. Alas it seems constant vigilance is required: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/micro...ives-too-often/ QUOTE It's hard to google these things. I mean, what's even the thing you get called? Yeah, this was all I found: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...AllReplies#tabs |
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| pandy |
Aug 28 2020, 03:45 PM
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🌟Computer says no🌟 Group: WDG Moderators Posts: 20,730 Joined: 9-August 06 Member No.: 6 |
Did you find why you get it and not I?
So it's defragging? I don't think I've ever got that. Once it wanted to finish set something up, but I think that was the installation of yet another Windows update. |
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| Christian J |
Aug 28 2020, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(pandy @ Aug 28 2020, 10:45 PM) Did you find why you get it and not I? No.  QUOTE So it's defragging? I don't think I've ever got that. Once it wanted to finish set something up, but I think that was the installation of yet another Windows update. No, the SSD defragging is a completely different Windows 10 badness. It's done in the background, you may want to check those settings. |
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