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post Jun 18 2023, 02:21 AM
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Interesting. So what spec was marquee actually in?

You caught me! Technically it was never ACTUALLY part of HTML. It was vendor specific, though it was mentioned by name as rejected in one of the HTML 4 drafts alongside EMBED. (or at least the W3C's discussions of such)

After all the whole point of 4 Strict was to simplify the language and reduce the number of tags.


Thank you so much for telling us all that. laugh.gif

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Which is why it's so aggravatingly stupid the WhatWG put EMBED back in. But then I disagree with a lot of what they did with HTML 5.


They didn't. They put it in, but not back in. It never was in spec before. tongue.gif

So why is EMBED so evil, so evil you compare it to MARQUEE? Is it really that different from other ways to embed content?
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post Jun 23 2023, 01:03 AM
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So why is EMBED so evil, so evil you compare it to MARQUEE? Is it really that different from other ways to embed content?

It's a pointless redundancy. One of the entire concepts of 4 Strict was to remove redundancies, and in the next version of HTML that the W3C was working on -- before they pitched it in the trash for WhatWG's rubbish -- was going to remove a few more tags. Like IMG. Why? Redundant to OBJECT and didn't provide a mechanism for browser extensions to add functionality.

It's why I'm not particularly enamored of AUDIO and VIDEO, as they too are redundant to OBJECT. IF it's a non-text media item do we really need five separate tags for them? Same can be said of IFRAME really.

But because M$ dragged its heels, added their own BS, and in general made OBJECT a wreck, OBJECT because reviled.

It's like a lot of the other idiocy they added like HGROUP which didn't survive W3C adoption, but now is magically back in an even less useful form. (and is redundant to <header>).

It's what I keep saying, around half the HTML 5 spec is proof that the folks at the WhatWG didn't know enough about HTML to make 4 Strict's successor. That they based it on what people were doing in the ****-show of incompetence that was 3.2 / 4 Tranny certainly didn't help matters.

Which is probably why today halfwits, quacks, morons, and fools build monuments to HTML 3.2 practices in the form of "frameworks"

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post Jun 25 2023, 08:17 AM
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I don't see any similarities between EMBED and MARQUEE, not even among the reasons for not liking the former. As for the MARQUEE element and the other layout issues I don't think they're a big deal in this case, since the page seems to be mostly made for fun and not meant to be taken Very Seriously. happy.gif
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