Hello again


I have something strange going on and I can't fix it

when you go to this webpage: http://www.coldcharlie.nl/index.php?site=forum

As you can see the <h2>Forum</h2> tag, beneath there is a lot of space wich I dont like, I would like to have it like the rest of the pages.

this is the code after <h2>Forum</h2>, as you can see, there is nothing what is resposible for that amount of space.



Maybe that I have sitting to long on this chair, that I don't see anything anymore but I can use some help

Thanks a ton in advance

There are lots of invalid markup, such as multiple STYLE elements scattered throughout the page: http://htmlhelp.com/cgi-bin/validate.cgi?u...mp;warnings=yes

I should add that the multiple STYLE elements are not the cause of the problem, rather a sign of how bad the HTML editor is.

You also have CSS errors.

And there are 9 <br>'s after the <h2>.

9 <br>'s!! where, because I cant find them

Right, I don't see them when viewing the source, but I do when using Safari's Web Inspector:


See the screenshot:

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They all have a computed height of 12px and 0 for width.

Maybe it's the PHP that generates them.

If the PHP generated them, they would be in the source, since PHP only generates the document sent to the browser...

I don't see them in the page's innerHTML.


I guess you meant javascript? But the gap remains for me even when JS and CSS is disabled. Maybe it has something to do with all the nested layout tables and/or markup errors. I suggest rewriting the page from the beginning, while watching out for the markup produced by the HTML editor(s).

I must say this is the first time I see a difference between the source code as in View Source and the output of Safari's Web Inspector.

I didn't see anything in the js files that could cause it. I de-activated everything I could, but the gap stayed and errors started to come up as if it were the validator.

I was looking for something like that, but I don't see BRs in IE's rendered source either.

There are table errors but fixing them doesn't help. It's not the CSS. It's not something generated by JS. So what the heck is it?

Are you sure? I tried simplifying the page but got lost in no time.

thank you all, it's strange allright. accept for the diffent styles (wich I will put in a stylesheet later) the site is original.

Yes. But I just corrected the table error the validator reports. I didn't rewrite the page.