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AZBW
Some how I have inadvertently rearranged my index page and can't find where I made the mistake. Any help appreciated. Thank you. azbw.com
pandy
Maybe if we could see? Could you post the URL to the page? biggrin.gif
AZBW
www.azbw.com
pandy
I don't know how it looked before, but you have quite a few errors, some of them serious.
http://www.htmlhelp.com/cgi-bin/validate.c...s&input=yes

Try to correct those. Especially the table related errors could cause layout problems.
AZBW
Obviously I'm new to this. I'll check the errors. I didn't know how to check what you found. I was working on the site and all of a sudden the stuff on the right side was midway down instead of at the top.
pandy
The validator is your friend. The error report may seem daunting at first, but it's really helpful. If you validate now and then as you write a page, it doesn't get as bad.

Ask if you need help with interpreting the validator output. smile.gif
AZBW
QUOTE(pandy @ Oct 7 2008, 11:15 PM) *

The validator is your friend. The error report may seem daunting at first, but it's really helpful. If you validate now and then as you write a page, it doesn't get as bad.

Ask if you need help with interpreting the validator output. smile.gif



Daunting it is, I'll start working my way through it but I am sure I will be asking for help. Thank you.
AZBW
QUOTE(pandy @ Oct 7 2008, 11:15 PM) *

The validator is your friend. The error report may seem daunting at first, but it's really helpful. If you validate now and then as you write a page, it doesn't get as bad.

Ask if you need help with interpreting the validator output. smile.gif



• Line 18, character 60:
• ... text/css" href="css/azbn.css">
^
Error: element LINK not allowed here; check which elements this element may be contained within


What is the english translation of the above? If I get started right I think I will be able to follow through with the rest of the corrections. Thank you.
Darin McGrew
The LINK element is not allowed where you put it. If you follow the "LINK" link, then you'll see that it must be contained within the HEAD element.

You've got
CODE
</head>
<link rel="STYLESHEET" type="text/css" href="css/azbn.css">
You should have
CODE
<link rel="STYLESHEET" type="text/css" href="css/azbn.css">
</head>
AZBW
QUOTE(AZBW @ Oct 8 2008, 12:08 AM) *

QUOTE(pandy @ Oct 7 2008, 11:15 PM) *

The validator is your friend. The error report may seem daunting at first, but it's really helpful. If you validate now and then as you write a page, it doesn't get as bad.

Ask if you need help with interpreting the validator output. smile.gif



Daunting it is, I'll start working my way through it but I am sure I will be asking for help. Thank you.


As I work through the error list I see that the maximum number of errors was reached at line 244. Would you point out which errors above that line are serious? I was working beyond line 340 when I believe the mistake occured that moved the right hand side of my site down so far.
pandy
All the ones related to tables. But start with the easy ones like the wrongly placed LINK and the wrongly nested FONT. That will get the errors down and make the report easier to read.
AZBW
QUOTE(Darin McGrew @ Oct 8 2008, 11:28 AM) *

The LINK element is not allowed where you put it. If you follow the "LINK" link, then you'll see that it must be contained within the HEAD element.

You've got
CODE
</head>
<link rel="STYLESHEET" type="text/css" href="css/azbn.css">
You should have
CODE
<link rel="STYLESHEET" type="text/css" href="css/azbn.css">
</head>



Thanks Darin,
I made the change but it has not changed the page. What am I missing?
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>Arizona News for Outdoor Events, Water Sports, Fishing, Lakes and Boating</title>
<meta name="description" content="Arizona boating news providing fishing, boating and other information for outdoor activities and destinations">
<meta name="keywords" content="arizona boating, watersports, california boating, california fishing, rv, arizona lakes, bass fishing, extreme watersports, destinations, arizona fising, boating">
<link rel="STYLESHEET" type="text/css" href="css/azbn.css">
<script src="Scripts/AC_RunActiveContent.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<style type="text/css">
<!--
.style1 {
font-size: 18px;
font-weight: bold;
}
-->
</style>

<link rel="STYLESHEET" type="text/css" href="css/azbn.css">
</head>
Darin McGrew
Well, you've still got a lot more errors in the page...
AZBW
True, I'll get after them.
pandy
QUOTE(AZBW @ Oct 9 2008, 06:08 PM) *

I made the change but it has not changed the page. What am I missing?


Not all errors have an impact you can see or notice. Browsers try to recover from errors and some are so usual that most (all?) browsers handle them, but they still are a potential risk.

As I said before, if you nuke the easy errors the error report gets shorter and also will make more sense because it isn't obfuscated by those typo style errors. That makes it easier to focus on the other errors. And you never know if one of the seemingly unimportant errors under certain circumstances, in some browsing environment, will turn out to be a serious problem. Since they are easier to fix, it makes sense to start there.
AZBW
QUOTE(pandy @ Oct 9 2008, 12:15 PM) *

QUOTE(AZBW @ Oct 9 2008, 06:08 PM) *

I made the change but it has not changed the page. What am I missing?


Not all errors have an impact you can see or notice. Browsers try to recover from errors and some are so usual that most (all?) browsers handle them, but they still are a potential risk.

As I said before, if you nuke the easy errors the error report gets shorter and also will make more sense because it isn't obfuscated by those typo style errors. That makes it easier to focus on the other errors. And you never know if one of the seemingly unimportant errors under certain circumstances, in some browsing environment, will turn out to be a serious problem. Since they are easier to fix, it makes sense to start there.


Thank you. I'm working my way through them.
pandy
God's speed! smile.gif
AZBW
QUOTE(pandy @ Oct 8 2008, 01:24 PM) *

All the ones related to tables. But start with the easy ones like the wrongly placed LINK and the wrongly nested FONT. That will get the errors down and make the report easier to read.

AZBW
Line 372, character 16:

</table><br/>
^

Warning: net-enabling start-tag; possibly missing required quotes around an attribute value

Interpretation please. I believe this is the point where I've messed up my web site. The right hand (For The Latetest Issue.....) that is seen here should be at the top of the page.
Frederiek
You use HTML 4.01 Transitional as DOCTYPE. The validator complains about the slash in <br/>, which is part of XHTML, where empty elements need to be closed. See http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#h-4.6.
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