Greetings everyone,
I am a new html convert (I graduated with a bachelors in print editorial journalism from CSUS) print publications are out the window and new on-line publications are in.
I have some questions?
If I started learning XHTML last week, (I put in about 4-6 hours per day) so this is about 30 hours of research on WDG.
when should I start learning about dreamweaver?
back in high school I learned about Pascal and Lotus as well as binary coding.
in college, I learned about editing publications and typed scripts....not much on digital coding....so I have limited background
but yet, I don't believe that I need a degree in computer science. I am pretty bright.
But I was wondering how long is too long to start making a webpage, (should I just dive right into it) or should I read more tutorials.
I hate to sound stupid here, so please forgive me if I do, it's not intentional.
I have no idea
Also,
I have been learning about variables, attributes, DOCTYPE, tagging (open and closing) but this is all using notepad, I need to upgrade but
don't know where to start
so far I understand that you have to input a DOCTYPE - this is an example of what I know
<!DOCTYPE html
PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html>
<head><title>My title</title></head>
<body>
<table border="1">
<tr>
<td>this is data</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>data 1</td>
<td>data 2</td>
</tr>
</table>
</a>
</body>
</html>
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QUOTE(prosulas @ Oct 30 2009, 08:58 PM) 
when should I start learning about dreamweaver?
Uhm, never? Why slow yourself down with that?
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But I was wondering how long is too long to start making a webpage, (should I just dive right into it) or should I read more tutorials.
Hard question. I usually advice people to slow down. But that's because many newbies have this idea of a huge site with all the bells and whistles and they want to learn to do everything yesterday. It's refreshing when someone has another approach. But maybe you could build a simple little site for your own amusement and learning. Your favorite recipes for apple pie or whatever. Use what you learnt so far and while you learn new stuff/better ways to do things you could update it. Just an idea.
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I have been learning about variables, attributes, DOCTYPE, tagging (open and closing) but this is all using notepad, I need to upgrade but
don't know where to start
don't know where to start
Not variables. HTML isn't a programming language. But the rest is good to know.
I recommend that you get yourself a good text editor that have the features you think you'll need and use. Stay away from the big WYSYWYG programs.
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this is an example of what I know
That's fine except for the unmatched closing tag for A you have after the table.
Do you know about validation? A validator is a great learning tool. Judging from what you said, I think you it would appriciate what it does.
http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/
http://validator.w3.org/
http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/
http://validator.w3.org/
Pandy,
thanks so much for getting back to me. The only reason that I wanted to learn about dreamweaver is because so many companies that pay want you to have experience with it as well as Java and FlashPro
thanks so much for getting back to me. The only reason that I wanted to learn about dreamweaver is because so many companies that pay want you to have experience with it as well as Java and FlashPro
Yes, there is that. I'd save that until you've learnt more if I were you. You can probably learn the program fast enough if you need it later. Those "helpful" programs aren't for beginners - you could pick up bad coding habits. 
Best is not to use Dreamweaver and the like. You need to learn about styles, CSS stylesheets in additional to XHTML. Lists, divs, etc. You have given an example of using tables, but remember that tables are used ONLY when the actual data is tables. Since you are getting started, you can keep these points in mind.
you guys are awesome....I will take this into account
I have a question.
When I do a test run of this
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Sobriety Brings About Change.| SBAC</title>
</head>
<body>
<p style="background-color:#008B8B:color:#FFFFFF">this paragraph is using an inline style.</p>
<p>this paragraph is not using an inline style.</p>
<h1> Welcome to Sobriety Brings About Change better known as SBAC.</h1>
<p>SBAC is a non-profit agency specializing in out-patient
drug and alcohol dependency counseling. With more than 30 years
of experience with drug and alcohol as well as domestic violence counseling,
clients will find an understanding council of professionals
who are experienced at what they do all within a confidential atmosphere.</p>
<p> Based in Sacramento, California our goal is to have an impact within
the community and provide a safe afterschool program for young at risk
youth.</p>
</body>
</html>
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the background color doesn't appear in my browser. I am testing in Explorer. What is wrong? Did I leave something out?
When I do a test run of this
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Sobriety Brings About Change.| SBAC</title>
</head>
<body>
<p style="background-color:#008B8B:color:#FFFFFF">this paragraph is using an inline style.</p>
<p>this paragraph is not using an inline style.</p>
<h1> Welcome to Sobriety Brings About Change better known as SBAC.</h1>
<p>SBAC is a non-profit agency specializing in out-patient
drug and alcohol dependency counseling. With more than 30 years
of experience with drug and alcohol as well as domestic violence counseling,
clients will find an understanding council of professionals
who are experienced at what they do all within a confidential atmosphere.</p>
<p> Based in Sacramento, California our goal is to have an impact within
the community and provide a safe afterschool program for young at risk
youth.</p>
</body>
</html>
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the background color doesn't appear in my browser. I am testing in Explorer. What is wrong? Did I leave something out?
By the way i used validator and it states that i have no errors...but no color backround shows...
CODE
<p style="background-color:#008B8B:color:#FFFFFF">
should beCODE
<p style="background-color:#008B8B;color:#FFFFFF">
The HTML validator won't show you CSS errors.
I am really running into this CSS problem. Nothing that I enter for coloring is being honored by my browser. Is it possible that I don't have the correct version? How can I check to see if I have an up to date browser using Internet Exlorer?
I am really lost and frustrated, need help here....
thanks!
I am really lost and frustrated, need help here....
thanks!
If you click on help, it will say About Internet Explorer or About Mozilla Firefox. Then can also run check for updates.
Internet Explorer's most recent is Internet Explorer 8 and Firefox is 3.5.4. Also, not sure if you use Safari, but I believe that's at 4 now.
There are a lot more web browsers, you'd just have to run the check for updates or check their site to see what the most recent is.
Internet Explorer's most recent is Internet Explorer 8 and Firefox is 3.5.4. Also, not sure if you use Safari, but I believe that's at 4 now.
There are a lot more web browsers, you'd just have to run the check for updates or check their site to see what the most recent is.
okay I fixed it ....it works now, I had missed something....validator isn't good for every single thing I suppose now...
thanks
thanks
Oh yes it is.
s Darin said above, a HTML validator checks the HTML, not the CSS. For that, use the W3C CSS checker.
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
s Darin said above, a HTML validator checks the HTML, not the CSS. For that, use the W3C CSS checker.
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Though actually the HTML validator isn't good for everything in HTML, let alone the other stuff.
The HTML validator would be content with a page that had no tags in the body beyond DIV, OBJECT and SPAN (or, to be minimalist, just DIV). But that's probably not the best way to construct a page.
So HTML validation is necessary, but not sufficient.
The HTML validator would be content with a page that had no tags in the body beyond DIV, OBJECT and SPAN (or, to be minimalist, just DIV). But that's probably not the best way to construct a page.
So HTML validation is necessary, but not sufficient.
I just wanted to say thanks to everyone. This is what I have come up with so far. You all have inspired me to keep going. I am now in the process of putting in some Classes, ID's, text aligners, and declarations.
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Sobriety Brings About Change.| SBAC</title>
<style type="text/css" MEDIA="screen">
BODY {
background-color: #E0DD06;
color: #027002;
}
H1 {
text-align: right;
font: bold italic 150% sans-serif;
color: red;
}
P {
text-align: justify;
margin-left: 2cm;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<h1> Sobriety Brings About Change.</h1>
<p class=special>Welcome to Sobriety Brings About Change better known as SBAC.</p>
<h1> Greater Sacramento Presence, Providing Excellent Service In Oak Park</h1>
<p class=special>SBAC is a non-profit agency specializing in out-patient
drug and alcohol dependency counseling. With more than 30 years
of experience with drug and alcohol as well as domestic violence counseling,
clients will find an understanding council of professionals
who are experienced at what they do all within a confidential atmosphere.</p>
<p> Based in Sacramento, California our goal is to have an impact within
the community and provide a safe afterschool program for young at risk
youth.</p>
<h1> Intensive Outpatient Program:</h1>
<p>Our Evening Outpatient Program treats both substance abuse and
codependency, allowing patients to continue to reside at home and
work in the local community while they are in treatment.<p>
<h1>Clinical Diagnostic Evaluation</h1>
<p> A Clinical Diagnostic Evaluation (CDE) is a multidisciplinary, medically-based
assessment process designed to determine whether or not an individual meets diagnostic
criteria for a substance related disorder or another psychiatric condition.
Although the CDE Program was originally designed to evaluate licensed professionals,
we welcome the opportunity to assist anyone who is concerned about their use of substances
and how their substance use might be impacting their overall health and functioning.
Particular attention is given to various psychiatric conditions, including mood disorders,
chronic pain, psychological and cognitive functioning and personality issues and their relationship,
if any, to substance use.</p>
<p>
<hr>
<address>
Comments to:
<a href="mailto:sbac3307@yahoo.com">SBAC Staff</a>,
Sobriety Brings About Change., 3307 Broadway, Sacramento, CA 95817</address>
</body>
</html>
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Sobriety Brings About Change.| SBAC</title>
<style type="text/css" MEDIA="screen">
BODY {
background-color: #E0DD06;
color: #027002;
}
H1 {
text-align: right;
font: bold italic 150% sans-serif;
color: red;
}
P {
text-align: justify;
margin-left: 2cm;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<h1> Sobriety Brings About Change.</h1>
<p class=special>Welcome to Sobriety Brings About Change better known as SBAC.</p>
<h1> Greater Sacramento Presence, Providing Excellent Service In Oak Park</h1>
<p class=special>SBAC is a non-profit agency specializing in out-patient
drug and alcohol dependency counseling. With more than 30 years
of experience with drug and alcohol as well as domestic violence counseling,
clients will find an understanding council of professionals
who are experienced at what they do all within a confidential atmosphere.</p>
<p> Based in Sacramento, California our goal is to have an impact within
the community and provide a safe afterschool program for young at risk
youth.</p>
<h1> Intensive Outpatient Program:</h1>
<p>Our Evening Outpatient Program treats both substance abuse and
codependency, allowing patients to continue to reside at home and
work in the local community while they are in treatment.<p>
<h1>Clinical Diagnostic Evaluation</h1>
<p> A Clinical Diagnostic Evaluation (CDE) is a multidisciplinary, medically-based
assessment process designed to determine whether or not an individual meets diagnostic
criteria for a substance related disorder or another psychiatric condition.
Although the CDE Program was originally designed to evaluate licensed professionals,
we welcome the opportunity to assist anyone who is concerned about their use of substances
and how their substance use might be impacting their overall health and functioning.
Particular attention is given to various psychiatric conditions, including mood disorders,
chronic pain, psychological and cognitive functioning and personality issues and their relationship,
if any, to substance use.</p>
<p>
<hr>
<address>
Comments to:
<a href="mailto:sbac3307@yahoo.com">SBAC Staff</a>,
Sobriety Brings About Change., 3307 Broadway, Sacramento, CA 95817</address>
</body>
</html>
One comment. Even if it isn't technically wrong to use H1 several times, it's more common to reserve H1 for the main page heading and use H2, H3 and so on for the "lesser" headings,
How headings should be used is a much discussed topic. Some have a very strict view on it, others are a little more lenient. But however you see it, H1 is kinda special.
Oh, now I see another thing. You should change to HTML 4.01. HTML 4.0 was quickly replaced by HTML 4.01 to fix some mistakes.
You do good. I applaud your choice of HTML over XHTML and Strict over Transitional.
How headings should be used is a much discussed topic. Some have a very strict view on it, others are a little more lenient. But however you see it, H1 is kinda special.
Oh, now I see another thing. You should change to HTML 4.01. HTML 4.0 was quickly replaced by HTML 4.01 to fix some mistakes.
You do good. I applaud your choice of HTML over XHTML and Strict over Transitional.
thanks pandy
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