Title says it all!

I use the <pre></pre> tags to get the exact bare bones layout I want yet the info is appearing on screen with extra lines either side of the text.

I've examined the html and can see no reason why this would be occuring. Thoughts?

here's a link to an example:

the detail of the scorecard is enclosed in the <pre></pre> tags...Scorecard

and here's one that does work (albeit a bit nicer looking!) - Scorecard

Come on now... You use PRE because you want to preserve whitespace, right? Yet you add blank lines in the source code.



"The PRE element contains preformatted text. Visual browsers should render preformatted text in a fixed-width font, should not collapse whitespace, and should not wrap long lines"
http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/block/pre.html

Whitespace is (mainly) spaces, tabs and carriage returns.

Hi Pandy

Thanks for replying but in my source code I DID not include blank lines - these appeared after the file was uploaded to the site.

I am well aware of what whitespace is but thanks for reminding me.

They are there in the source now anyhow. If you were aware of the problem, I don't understand your question. Especially since you say "I've examined the html and can see no reason why this would be occurring.".

I can see they are there in the web version - but they are not there in my original code.

I want to know what is causing them to appear and how I can stop it.

I don't know. Have you tried uploading the file again?

yes, several times

I've even saved the version appearing online and opened that up only to see no blank lines??

I don't understand how that can happen since the blank lines are there in the source. How did you download it? View source?

I've tried fixing it two ways.

View source which shows the line breaks as you've found - I saved that, deleted the blank lines and reloaded. Same result.

I also did "save target as" but no blank lines showed in that when opened!

Some FTP programs may add extra newlines depending on the text editor used: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline#Common_problems

Thanks for that info.

I use either CoffeeCup's HTML editor or notepad to make quick changes - doesn't seem to matter which one I use.

I assumed the other, correct, document was produced and uploaded in the same way. Was it?

What about binary mode then? Can you have turned that on by mistake in your FTP client?

The correct document was produced the same way.

I will check the FTP settings but I'm pretty sure it's done automatically...

Hej, upload another document with a few lines in it and see if it happens to that too.

same thing happens...

does it help if I say the extra blank lines are appearing between every line of code but only the ones between the <pre></pre> tags are affecting the webview (as you'd expect)??

I have no idea if something on the server can cause this. Seems far-fetched, but maybe it's possible.

Sounds like the newline problem I linked to above.

Yeah, but alrounder has used the same gear for these files as he did earlier when he didn't get the double line breaks. So what else could have changed?

and, more importantly, how do I fix it?!

We won't know that until we know what it is.

Maybe a little talk with your host would be in place.

that's not possible, I'll have to solve it from my end

I've successfully loaded the file as it should appear with Filezilla so it looks like it is an issue with both net2ftp and CoffeeCup's HTML Editor

How odd. I thought this problem was something of the past. I've never seen it myself actually. Good your problem is solved anyway and FileZilla is a great FTP client.