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Niomi
post May 18 2010, 08:14 PM
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The left-hand green column on my website ( http://members.cox.net/bluebirds ) displays side-by-side with the text in Explorer. What changes to html coding do I need to make so that it displays correctly in Firefox as well?

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post May 19 2010, 01:48 AM
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Start by fixing the markup errors found by the validator (links at top/bottom of this page).
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Niomi
post May 20 2010, 10:58 AM
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Thank you, Frederiek.

I am an amateur and self-taught... and not very knowledgeable. I only built the website to assist others getting started with bluebirds and other native cavity-nesting birds, and am not really interested in web design.

After testing my site with the Validator, I get several errors, which I expected. However, most of them aren't causing a problem. And I haven't the time or interest in correcting all of the code. But if it isn't too difficult, I would like to correct how the site displays in Firefox (it displays fine in Explorer).

So, I'd appreciate any assistance in tweeking just the code needed to get the green left-hand column (table) to display side-by-side with the text, as it does in Exlporer. In Firefox, the green table displays first (over the whole screen), followed by the text.

Thank you for any assistance offered.
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Darin McGrew
post May 20 2010, 11:15 AM
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Many of the errors reported by our online validator are related to broken structure:
http://htmlhelp.com/cgi-bin/validate.cgi?u...mp;warnings=yes

If you fix the broken structure, then browsers won't have to do as much error correction.
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post May 20 2010, 01:02 PM
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Darin,

I can appreciate your suggestion to correct ALL code errors... and if I were doing this as a career, I certainly would be approaching this with much more effort and attention to detail. However, I'm doing this as a volunteer, and not interested in spending much more time on the web design.

I like the idea behind Firefox, and therefore would like to support it by having the site viewer friendly to Firefox users. However, since I'm not interested in spending a lot of time figuring this out (or willing to spend money on hiring a professional), as a last resort, I decided to reach out here in hopes that some smart programmer might be able to quickly and easily isolate the exact coding that would correct the table dispay in Firefox (fingers crossed).

At any rate, thank you for taking a look at my situation... I do appreciate your time and feedback, regardless of whether I'm able to correct the problem or not.

Best, Niomi

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post May 20 2010, 05:45 PM
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Your table structure is broken. You close your tr element with a </tr> tag, and then you have another td element that isn't inside any tr element. All td elements must be inside tr elements in HTML.

Some browsers (e.g., MSIE, Opera) interpret this as a single tr element, essentially ignoring the erroneous </tr> tag. They show the two boxes side-by-side.

Other browsers (e.g., Firefox, Chrome, Safari) interpret this as two tr elements, essentially assuming that you left out a <tr> tag after the erroneous </tr> tag. They show the two boxes stacked, one above the other.
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Niomi
post May 20 2010, 09:44 PM
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Thank you, Darin... much appreciated!

Am I correct in assuming that all I need to do is eliminate the first </tr> I had listed at the end of the first table? Unfortunately I don't have Foxfire loaded on my home computer, so I can't see if this easily fixes the problem.

However, I did try adding another <td> above the second table, and saw that MSIE then stacked the tables. So if I'm guessing correctly, the above quick fix should allow both tables to display side-by-side in Firefox, Chrome, Safari and MSIE & Opera?

I've dropped the first </tr> on the homepage ( http://members.cox.net/bluebirds ). If you can confirm that dropping the first </tr> corrects the problem, then I'll go ahead and change it on each of the other 15 web pages.

Gratefully, Niomi
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post May 20 2010, 10:52 PM
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Unfortunately I don't have Foxfire loaded on my home computer, so I can't see if this easily fixes the problem.



http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html
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post May 21 2010, 08:45 AM
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Thank you, Pandy.

I don't consider myself well-versed in technology, but I try to make use of it. As I said before, I like the idea behind Firefox, and I currently use Thunderbird for my default email program. IE came pre-loaded on my computer. I have thought about downloading Firefox, especially after the great experience I've had with Thunderbird. What's held me back is the concern for space on my hard drive... but perhaps that fear is ill founded. My thinking was that when I purchased my next computer, I wouldn't have anything factory loaded, and then I'd load selected programs.

If my choice of words offended anyone here, it was not intended, as I am in favor of the Mozilla platforms. And I am very appreciative of the help I've received in this forum.

With all good regards, Niomi

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post May 21 2010, 10:20 AM
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Not at all. But we are volunteers too, you know, so we aren't interested in putting too much work in either. Surely you can understand that? tongue.gif

We are happy to help people who want to learn. Not so happy when people want us to do their job for them.

BTW if there isn't space enough for a browser on your HD, your machine must be rather slow and would be much healthier if you deleted some stuff or moved it off your HD to some removable media.
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Niomi
post May 21 2010, 10:31 AM
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Wow... were my fears unfounded. I just downloaded Firefox (in a flash - I had plenty of space) and like it VERY much.

And I also made all the HTML changes so the website now displays correctly in all browsers... yeah.

Thank you All, for your help! I would NEVER have gotten assistance like this from Microsoft...

You not only helped me solve my coding problem, but you also got me fired up to use Firefox.

Now, at my leisure, I'll go back and tackle cleaning up the rest of the code...

You're the best, Niomi
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