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jimlongo
post Sep 23 2009, 11:08 PM
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Now you can replace the rendering and javascript engines that IE uses with Chrome Frame, and also get the Webkit developer toolkit at the same time. http://jimray.tumblr.com/post/194793633/mo...le-chrome-frame

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The irony here, as I see it, is that an old, insecure feature Microsoft built to try to beat Netscape is now being used by Microsoft’s biggest current rival to patch IE. The upside for developers is that Microsoft is going to have a hard time killing Chrome Frame because it actually does the right thing — it’s not hacking IE via undocumented APIs or unscrupulous haxie-like code injection. They used Microsoft’s own well-documented and fully supported platform to do this. Bravo indeed, Google.
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Christian J
post Sep 24 2009, 04:59 AM
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"Imagine being able to design with all of the modern tools like HTML 5, CSS 3, SVG, and performant javascript and telling all of your users, even the ones using IE 6, that this can all be theirs if they’ll just install a quick plug-in. "

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post Sep 24 2009, 05:01 AM
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Is that what it does? Force an ad on IE users? ohmy.gif
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post Sep 24 2009, 08:11 AM
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The Developer's Guide seems to encourage just that:

"If Google Chrome Frame is present, you can insert the required meta tag; if not, you can redirect users to a page that explains how to install Google Chrome Frame.

As an alternative to server-side sniffing, you can use the CFInstall.js script to detect Google Chrome Frame and prompt users to install the plug-in at runtime."


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post Sep 24 2009, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(pandy @ Sep 24 2009, 06:01 AM) *

Is that what it does? Force an ad on IE users? ohmy.gif


I think suggest would be more appropriate than force.
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post Sep 24 2009, 01:29 PM
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I think suggest would be more appropriate than force.

Why? I don't see how the ad is optional?

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If Google Chrome Frame is present, you can insert the required meta tag; if not, you can redirect users to a page that explains how to install Google Chrome Frame.

I haven't installed anything and I saw a frame with Chrome hype in IE and didn't see it in other browsers.

But my question was serious. Is this the only use you can make of this frame thing? Since you have read up about it, maybe you can enlighten us, jimlongo. wub.gif
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post Sep 24 2009, 02:41 PM
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I don't know anything more than i've read, because I've NEVER had the opportunity to use IE.

Maybe there's someone around here who works at Google ninja.gif and knows something.
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post Sep 24 2009, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(pandy @ Sep 24 2009, 02:29 PM) *

I haven't installed anything and I saw a frame with Chrome hype in IE and didn't see it in other browsers.


But did this frame demand that you do something? Or can you not ignore it?
What does it look like? Howsabout a screenshot.
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post Sep 24 2009, 05:00 PM
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But did this frame demand that you do something? Or can you not ignore it?
What does it look like? Howsabout a screenshot.

It's an 800*600px JS-generated IFRAME containing http://www.google.com/chromeframe --since it's absolutely positioned, it will cover much of the beginning text.

Don't know if the JS creating the IFRAME comes from Google or the site owner.
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post Sep 24 2009, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(jimlongo @ Sep 24 2009, 09:44 PM) *

What does it look like? Howsabout a screenshot.


It looks like *beep*.

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post Sep 24 2009, 06:09 PM
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Faeces! laugh.gif
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post Sep 24 2009, 06:11 PM
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So how does a user get that frame out of their way if they don't want to proceed with any installation?
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post Sep 24 2009, 07:11 PM
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By leaving the site to go to a more worthy one.
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post Sep 24 2009, 10:56 PM
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I guess we'll see how that plays out. If I were placing bets on this, i'd bet against IE.
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post Sep 25 2009, 06:07 AM
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No way.

Just wanted to add that I've realized now that the frame we saw has nothing to do with this Chrome Frame thing. blush.gif
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post Sep 25 2009, 06:48 AM
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In my understanding the Chrome Frame plugin contains the WebKit rendering engine, and nothing else? Does that mean that it doesn't send personal information to Google the way the Chrome browser does? How then is Google intending to make money from this?

And why doesn't Google target Firefox users? It can't be because Firefox uses a better rendering engine than IE, since all this is hardly about charity or concern over web standards. [Edit: Google may want IE users to be able to use Google's online services, of course.] Or maybe it's because a Google search bar is already installed in Firefox, but that assumes that the Chrome Frame adds a new Google search bar in the IE browser in addition to the new rendering engine.
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post Sep 25 2009, 06:52 AM
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QUOTE(Christian J @ Sep 25 2009, 12:00 AM) *

Don't know if the JS creating the IFRAME comes from Google or the site owner.

Seems it's all from Google. You can choose between an iframe or a popup: http://code.google.com/chrome/chromeframe/...l_check_Options
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post Sep 25 2009, 01:48 PM
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post Sep 25 2009, 01:54 PM
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All I know is i'm putting
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<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="chrome=1">

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post Sep 25 2009, 05:17 PM
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And what does that do?
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