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riderfireman
post Mar 15 2007, 01:01 AM
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I am very new to HTML code and am learning as I go. I have been using a program called NVU to help write the site. The site works fine on firefox but does not work well in IE. When you go to the site on IE you will see the problems. I know there are spelling errors as I have not yet edited for spelling. Any help would be great.
The site is http://www.rider.edu/~equestrian
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post Mar 15 2007, 03:44 AM
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Hi and welcome to hell! tongue.gif

The white squares in the menu are flash movies that don't load. I wonder if they are supposed to be there? FF doesn't load them either. They simply don't exist where you say they are on the server, for example this one. http://www.rider.edu/~equestrian/calendar.swf

A couple of hints. You may want to use a doctype that triggers Standards rendering mode.
http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/
You should move all inline style declarations to the style block in head or, even better, to an external style sheet. I don't know if Nvu can be configured to do it this way, if not you should do it by hand. When style attributes are used everywhere many of the advantages with CSS are lost.
http://htmlhelp.com/reference/css/style-html.html
I hear Nvu is pretty good, but if you want to learn there's nothing better than typing by hand in a text editor. It speeds up your learning curve tremendously. wink.gif
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post Mar 15 2007, 09:36 AM
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I went to the gallery and I saw some pictures there. And I dowloaded them. And I saw they're big. Very big. One of them is 1,4 MB sad.gif You may want to make them smaller. In MBs, not dimensions.
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post Mar 15 2007, 10:12 AM
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Well, the dimensions of the image file should be made smaller in an image editor. tongue.gif
Don't use the IMG tag to resize images..
http://www.rider.edu/~equestrian/Files/Spring04-1.jpg
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post Mar 15 2007, 03:14 PM
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Thanks,
I will try to find the problem. I actually downloaded the old website that was a class project for students some years back. It included flash and java I think. I tried to get rid of all of it but it sounds like i may have failed. I will try to look for the code and fix it. if you have a suggestions let me know. NVU was the program suggested by the server manager, I also failed to mention I use filezilla to load the pages. I will work on making the files for the pictures smaller. I just wanted to get the site up for recruitment purposes.
Please keep the help coming biggrin.gif and thank you to everyone that has helped so far.
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I am very new to HTML code and am learning as I go. I have been using a program called NVU to help write the site. The site works fine on firefox but does not work well in IE. When you go to the site on IE you will see the problems. I know there are spelling errors as I have not yet edited for spelling. Any help would be great.
The site is http://www.rider.edu/~equestrian

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post Mar 15 2007, 03:27 PM
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That explains it. Just delete all the <object>...</object> blocks then. happy.gif
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post Mar 15 2007, 05:37 PM
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YES!! That worked. The next problem i'm having is that things aren't centered in IE but are centered in FF and Navigator. That isn't a huge problem because the site is functional now. But any suggestions?
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That explains it. Just delete all the <object>...</object> blocks then. happy.gif

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post Mar 15 2007, 06:08 PM
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Looks the same in both browsers to me. Then again, the pages are wider than my screen so it's hard to see if they are centered or not... Put a doctype on that triggers Standards Mode. That'll probably fix it in
IE6. Here's the URL again.
http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/

Go download a text editor now and start to learn how to do it. tongue.gif
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post Mar 16 2007, 12:54 AM
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I tried it but it made no difference. I already had it in standards mode

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Looks the same in both browsers to me. Then again, the pages are wider than my screen so it's hard to see if they are centered or not... Put a doctype on that triggers Standards Mode. That'll probably fix it in
IE6. Here's the URL again.
http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/

Go download a text editor now and start to learn how to do it. tongue.gif

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post Mar 16 2007, 07:32 AM
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Nope. You had, and have, it in Quirks Mode. dry.gif
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post Mar 19 2007, 02:27 PM
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Ok I see it now. When I go into the HTML Code and edit it in NVU it reverts back to quark mode no matter what i put in instead. What HTML editor do you suggest using?
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post Mar 19 2007, 02:44 PM
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Change it in Notepad and see if that makes the page look right. There must be a setting in Nvu that controls the doctype. Should be possible to make it leave your code alone too, You can even make FrontPage do that, so it would be odd if there isn't.

I recommend any text editor that pushes your buttons. smile.gif
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post Mar 20 2007, 03:06 AM
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Ok now i changed the doctype to strict and the photos will not show up in firefox...
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post Mar 20 2007, 03:36 AM
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That's because the image paths point to your local computer. Upload the images and change the paths to them accordingly in your code.
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post Mar 20 2007, 03:38 PM
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WOW i feel dumb, when i looked at the file path it was to my local computer. I don't know why it did that. I like NVU being a beg website designer, but it is a really pain in my @$$ sometimes. I think I worked out all the bugs, I also shrunk the photo size. Thank you to Panda, Frederiek, and stjepan for all your help!
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post Mar 20 2007, 04:56 PM
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Told you, my friend. Type. tongue.gif
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