having a nightmarish time with frames Options

[bcasteel_85]

Hello, members of the HTMLHelp forums:

I'm a very junior web designer (i'm just getting out of college, in fact) and I'm working part time at a company. The situation is not optimal: I have no supervisor, no superior. I am their graphic designer.

They want me to make their web site. Well, they're not asking me to change the content. just to give the thing a new look. And I've done so url : http://www.wesleyhousing.org/WS_New%20design/index.htm I used frames for the page navigation, thinking it would save me time, and it did, but I'm having some major problems.

I'm working in Dreamweaver, bringing in page elements from Flash, Fireworks, etc.

First off, I cannot seem to get the page title to appear. Every page that contains a frame is listed as an "untitled document." I've tried changing it in the Page Properties menu, and I've tried using the "title" input box that Dreamweaver provides. Neither seems to give the pages a title.

Also, and this is much worse, by using frames I've made page visitors unable to bookmark specific pages! I have a deadline approaching, or I would scrap the frames entirely. Is there a workaround, some way to allow me to bookmark pages without redoing everything?

Thanks in advance.

EDIT there was a problem with my link. I fixed it.

This post has been edited by bcasteel_85: May 9 2007, 03:37 PM

[Darin McGrew]

First off, I cannot seem to get the page title to appear. Every page that contains a frame is listed as an "untitled document."

You need to change the title element of the frameset document. See the FAQ entry How do I change the title of a framed document?

Also, and this is much worse, by using frames I've made page visitors unable to bookmark specific pages!

Yep. Sounds familiar. See the FAQ entry How do I specify a specific combination of frames instead of the default document?

BTW, the image http://www.wesleyhousing.org/WS_New%20desi...p_main_5-02.png is 398 kB. It would be much smaller as a JPEG than it is as a PNG.

[bcasteel_85]

First off, I cannot seem to get the page title to appear. Every page that contains a frame is listed as an "untitled document."

You need to change the title element of the frameset document. See the FAQ entry How do I change the title of a framed document?

Also, and this is much worse, by using frames I've made page visitors unable to bookmark specific pages!

Yep. Sounds familiar. See the FAQ entry How do I specify a specific combination of frames instead of the default document?

BTW, the image http://www.wesleyhousing.org/WS_New%20desi...p_main_5-02.png is 398 kB. It would be much smaller as a JPEG than it is as a PNG.

I appreciate that info. Also, the picture for one of the properties is a PNG, and I guess it would behoove me to fix that, as well.

Thanks both of you for your input. I'll definitely look into that FAQ!

Do either of you, or anyone else, know of a quick (possibly dirty) workaround so I can bookmark at least some of the pages for the site?

EDIT: wait wait I just saw that you answered that, too. Thanks!

This post has been edited by bcasteel_85: May 10 2007, 12:50 AM

[bcasteel_85]

One thing here, though. I feel fairly confident in getting the name of the frameset to change, once I've figured out how to name the frameset. Maybe it's something I'm missing, but I just can't seem to get the frames named I'm trying to name just the main frameset, not the pages loaded into the bottom frame. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

suggestions?

[pandy]

The name of the frameset? Do you mean the file name? Or the TITLE element that you asked about to begin with?

[stjepan]

And remove that crawl at the top.

[bcasteel_85]

The name of the frameset? Do you mean the file name? Or the TITLE element that you asked about to begin with?

The title element.

[bcasteel_85]

And remove that crawl at the top.

Sorry, crawl?

[pandy]

The name of the frameset? Do you mean the file name? Or the TITLE element that you asked about to begin with?

The title element.

It goes in HEAD.

[Frederiek]

See http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/head/title.html

Set the TITLE in the index.html files, which contain the frameset of each set in a folder.

[bcasteel_85]

See http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/head/title.html

Set the TITLE in the index.html files, which contain the frameset of each set in a folder.

I think I understand now. Thanks everyone!

This post has been edited by bcasteel_85: May 10 2007, 11:11 AM

[stjepan]

And remove that crawl at the top.

Sorry, crawl?

That "More than 3 decades..." text on the top, that travels for ever and ever and ever... It was popular when I was young, back there in 15th century, and nowadays in just boring.

If you want that slogan to attract the eye, make it static at the top, and change the blue background to another color (dark red, for example). It will be there, it will be seen, and will be like 21st century, not 1990s.

Just an opinion of poor designer...

[Darin McGrew]

That "More than 3 decades..." text on the top, that travels for ever and ever and ever...

Hmmm... Must be one of the stupid web tricks that I've configured my browser to ignore. I don't see it.

[bcasteel_85]

That "More than 3 decades..." text on the top, that travels for ever and ever and ever...

Hmmm... Must be one of the stupid web tricks that I've configured my browser to ignore. I don't see it.

My boss wanted that there. She likes tickers… I'll see, though, if she would consent to have it static.

Thanks for all the help, everyone.