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> DOCTYPE is dead! Long live Version Targeting!, WTF???
jimlongo
post Jan 30 2008, 07:05 PM
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I'm not sure what to think of this latest proposal. But it sure seems a lot of well known people have many opinions on both sides of the divide.

IE Version Targeting

About a weeks worth of reading here. wacko.gif

Sounds like it could be the greatest thing since sliced bread, or the death of any chance of web standards in our lifetime.
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post Jan 30 2008, 07:46 PM
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It also sounds like the source code of browsers will need to get bulkier and bulkier and bulkier. How far back is this backward compatibility supposed to stretch? They have 4 in the examples there.

I do like the meta tag approach. In fact, believe me or not, but I've said that's the way they should have gone to start with. cool.gif The doctype switching is just ugly.

I don't know, but my initial feeling is that it'll get to complex. Don't think I like the targeting of each and every version...
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post Jan 31 2008, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(pandy @ Jan 30 2008, 07:46 PM) *

It also sounds like the source code of browsers will need to get bulkier and bulkier and bulkier. How far back is this backward compatibility supposed to stretch? They have 4 in the examples there.

I don't know about browser bloat, since in those links I see that FF, Safari and Opera have all chimed in with "we don't see any reason to go along with this". So once again it seems like a MS only approach.

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I don't know, but my initial feeling is that it'll get to complex. Don't think I like the targeting of each and every version...

There seems to be a feeling that content="IE=edge" will be the lazyman's approach to using this new feature.


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post Jan 31 2008, 12:52 AM
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OK, so if it's IE only what's the point? We already have conditional comments. Well, if IE turns out to be an ever greater mess I can see the advantage in getting it to behave as, say, IE7. unsure.gif

Oh, it will be lovely! Imagine combining conditional comments and a bunch of hacks with this! Fun times! Maybe I'll do some sniffing too for the heck of it. cool.gif
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There seems to be a feeling that content="IE=edge" will be the lazyman's approach to using this new feature.
It would be nice if standards-oriented browsers became dominant enough that we could just ignore MSIE and its BS...
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post Jan 31 2008, 12:56 AM
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I still think the basic idea to use Meta for switching is good. Just not so sure what should be switched. wacko.gif
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post Jan 31 2008, 01:02 AM
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CODE
<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Incompatible" content="IE">

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<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="close:IE; open:OtherUA">
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post Mar 4 2008, 10:01 PM
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Seems we have a little backtracking here.

IE8 "Standards Mode" will try to comply with standards, and if you want to emulate IE7s "standards mode" you will need to explicitly state that with a meta tag.
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post Mar 5 2008, 12:32 AM
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Sent ska syndarn vakna! happy.gif

Sorry, I don't know the English expression for that. I leave it to Christian to translate. tongue.gif
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