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Posted by: Brian Chandler Feb 18 2011, 02:20 PM

I like using Opera. At least I used to; now I'm wondering whether it is somehow decaying??

Anyway, I have a problem with some files in a directory: they are (more or less) all in Japanese, but some in shift-JIS, others in UTF-8. I will switch everything to UTF-8 one day, but for now... : here are the addresses

http://imaginatorium.org/ecco -- index page in shift-JIS
http://imaginatorium.org/ecco/vocalise.htm -- page in UTF-8

The shift-JIS page doesn't send a charset header, but because I kept getting garble in Opera, I made the vocalise page send a UTF-8 header. Here's what my header-getter says:

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http://imaginatorium.org/ecco/vocalise.htm

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:08:36 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.17
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.10
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8


Does this look right?

Anyway, in Firefox I can switch back and forth, and it gets it right. In Opera (10.63) a switch in *either* direction results in garble. Can anyone explain this? Can anyone tell me if switching in Explorer or any other real browser works correctly? Thanks.


Posted by: Christian J Feb 18 2011, 05:06 PM

QUOTE(Brian Chandler @ Feb 18 2011, 08:20 PM) *

in Firefox I can switch back and forth, and it gets it right.

Looks the same to me in Firefox, Opera 9 and 11. What do you mean with "switch", change browser window?

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I like using Opera. At least I used to; now I'm wondering whether it is somehow decaying??

There seem to be more features for every version, and the installer for Opera 11 didn't let me keep version 10.

Posted by: Brian Chandler Feb 18 2011, 11:16 PM

Thanks for the response...

QUOTE(Christian J @ Feb 19 2011, 07:06 AM) *

QUOTE(Brian Chandler @ Feb 18 2011, 08:20 PM) *

in Firefox I can switch back and forth, and it gets it right.

Looks the same to me in Firefox, Opera 9 and 11. What do you mean with "switch", change browser window?


I meant switch from one page to another in the same browser window. (In one direction at least there isn't a link, so just by typing/autocompleting/pasting the different address.) The other page is in a different encoding, so unless the browser has some reason to switch encodings, it will show garble. (Surely you must be familiar with this from somewhere not showing Swedish properly?)

http://imaginatorium.org/ecco -- index page in shift-JIS
http://imaginatorium.org/ecco/vocalise.htm -- page in UTF-8

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QUOTE
I like using Opera. At least I used to; now I'm wondering whether it is somehow decaying??

There seem to be more features for every version, and the installer for Opera 11 didn't let me keep version 10.


I seem to spend an ever-increasing amount of my time getting rid of "features". Certainly now every time my finger slips in any direction something I didn't want to happen happens. We've also been unable to use Opera for printing for a couple of versions now: it coats large areas with black. From about the latest version, Opera fails to display zero-width-spaces properly, showing spaces. Off the top of my head...


Posted by: Dag Mar 4 2011, 06:34 PM

Page in shift-JIS
http://orwell.ru/test/web/?gz=yes&met=get&tp=1.0&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimaginatorium.org%2Fecco%2F

Header *is* there.

Did u solve the problem? I haven't opera any more and don't play with browsers. Any screenshot?

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