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William Grimsley
post May 31 2017, 03:41 PM
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Well, it doesn't seem to. Any editors you can recommend?
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Christian J
post May 31 2017, 04:17 PM
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I've read https://notepad-plus-plus.org/ is good, but I havent' tried it.

http://www.textpad.com/ is good too, and what I use. It should at least let you remove a BOM.
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post May 31 2017, 04:43 PM
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Been trying Notepad++ all along trying to fix this issue. I'll check out TextPad.
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post May 31 2017, 04:48 PM
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Hmm, looks like I'm just going to have to put up with having a permanent BOM...

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post May 31 2017, 05:27 PM
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Strange, now I tried this:

1. Viewed source of the web page in TextPad, then saved the .html file to my desktop as UTF-8 with BOM unchecked in the save dialog. When I opened the saved file in TextPad again it still said UTF-8 (BOM).

2. Saved the desktop file a second time as UTF-8 with BOM unchecked. When I opened it again, it now said UTF-8 but this time without BOM.

Maybe there were two BOM characters in the file? wacko.gif
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post Jun 1 2017, 02:03 AM
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Have you identified the document with the BOM? Could you upload it here so we can see?
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William Grimsley
post Jun 1 2017, 03:02 AM
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Christian, why did you save it as a .html file, when it's a .php file? This is what I currently have:

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If I press "Save" there, I get one BOM, however if I select the "UNICODE BOM" box and then press "Save", I get two which are permanent even after pressing a button.

pandy, I uploaded the file a few posts back, but I've attached it again.

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Attached File  betel_readDayfile.php ( 71.49k ) Number of downloads: 114
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post Jun 1 2017, 04:37 AM
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OMG, I've fixed it! It was the included languages file that wasn't saved without BOM. Just like to say thanks for all the help, sorry that I forgot about that file. LOL.
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post Jun 1 2017, 05:26 AM
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Sorry, I didn't see you already attached it.

Is this file included first thing inside div#tableData? If not, exactly where is it included?
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post Jun 1 2017, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE(pandy @ Jun 1 2017, 12:26 PM) *

Sorry, I didn't see you already attached it.

I didn't see the attachment either before, but now it's there. unsure.gif

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Is this file included first thing inside div#tableData? If not, exactly where is it included?

Yes, it seems basic.php includes betel_readDayfile.php exactly where you say, and betel_readDayfile.php in turn includes betel_dayfile_languages.php (but now the latter returns nothing).
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post Jun 1 2017, 07:29 AM
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QUOTE(William Grimsley @ Jun 1 2017, 11:37 AM) *

OMG, I've fixed it! It was the included languages file that wasn't saved without BOM. Just like to say thanks for all the help, sorry that I forgot about that file. LOL.

You're welcome, I never even noticed that file. blush.gif

Note that files containing non-western characters are perhaps best saved as UTF-8 (without BOM) and not ANSI, otherwise the characters might become garbled.

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Christian, why did you save it as a .html file, when it's a .php file?

I was just sloppy, but it shouldn't matter to the text editor.
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post Jun 2 2017, 02:18 AM
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Then I don't think it's a BOM. I ran it through the WDG validator. It shows no funky characters, neither at the top nor anywhere else. Could it be produced by the PHP code and not inserted by an editor?

Anyway, I saved ithe document with an editor I know won't preserve any silly BOMs. To be extra safe I copied the text and pasted it in a new document. I don't think it will help in this case, but FWIW...

Attached File  betel_readDayfile_pandy.php ( 69.99k ) Number of downloads: 288
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post Jun 2 2017, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE(pandy @ Jun 2 2017, 09:18 AM) *

Then I don't think it's a BOM.

In the included file betel_dayfile_languages.php it should be a BOM, but I haven't been able to check that file.

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I ran it through the WDG validator. It shows no funky characters, neither at the top nor anywhere else.

True, TextPad says that the attached version of betel_readDayfile.php is UTF-8 without BOM, but the online version at http://newton-poppleford-weather.co.uk/betel_readDayfile.php used to be "UTF_8 (BOM)" (but now the OP has changed it to ANSI).

I think the file betel_dayfile_languages.php (which is only included into betel_readDayfile.php online) contained a BOM, but since that language file isn't included in the attached version of betel_readDayfile.php you won't get any BOM there. Clear as mud. happy.gif



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post Jun 2 2017, 11:57 AM
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What is this? I didn't see the post about that it was fixed before, nor did I see Christian's reply to that. ninja.gif
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