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post Mar 30 2017, 08:28 PM
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GPU? I'm not sure what GPU is. Wikipedia says it's not the same as graphics card and then they start listing what I've always thought were graphics cards, like Nvidia GeForce. Maybe GPU is called graphics card in everyday language?

To be exact it's part of the graphics card: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_card...Processing_Unit

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I'm getting used to the big desktop, but there are issues, things I need to relearn. I seldom used maximized windows before, but now it's impossible.

Same thing here, it's increadibly annoying when you open multiple program windows and Windows positions each new one at random around the screen and not where you want them.

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Or I could get a dedicated LOW computer table...

Or a higher chair together with a foot rest?

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post Mar 30 2017, 09:17 PM
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To be exact it's part of the graphics card: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_card...Processing_Unit


Yeah, that's the article I referred to. Are you sure it can be exchanged separately? Never heard of changing parts of the graphics card.

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I'm getting used to the big desktop, but there are issues, things I need to relearn. I seldom used maximized windows before, but now it's impossible.

Same thing here, it's increadibly annoying when you open multiple program windows and Windows positions each new one at random around the screen and not where you want them.


No, I meant the other way around. I don't like maximized windows but I sometime maximize for a short time. But on this screen maximized is way to much. If one just drags the window larger one needs to drag to get it smaller again too. Can't just click the title bar to toggle between your preferred size and the temporarily larger window.

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Or I could get a dedicated LOW computer table...

Or a higher chair together with a foot rest?


Not comfortable. I like to sort of move around in the chair. I'll just learn to keep my windows low.
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post Mar 31 2017, 08:15 AM
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Are you sure it can be exchanged separately? Never heard of changing parts of the graphics card.

No I meant the whole card, but writing "GPU" was shorter. sleep.gif

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No, I meant the other way around. I don't like maximized windows but I sometime maximize for a short time. But on this screen maximized is way to much. If one just drags the window larger one needs to drag to get it smaller again too. Can't just click the title bar to toggle between your preferred size and the temporarily larger window.

Yes, maximized have become useless: https://blog.codinghorror.com/the-large-display-paradox/ (the page mentions a customization program called WinSplit, which redirects to the non-free MaxTo).

BTW here's a test of Win10 on ultrawide screen: http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-u...itor-experience (Linux(?) desktops like Cinnamon also let you fit program windows maximized to one quadrant of the screen, or one side half).

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Not comfortable. I like to sort of move around in the chair. I'll just learn to keep my windows low.

For maximum eye comfort I recall you're supposed to be eye level with the screen's top edge. Get a lower table. smile.gif
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post Mar 31 2017, 02:29 PM
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No I meant the whole card, but writing "GPU" was shorter. sleep.gif


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Yeah, I also found some programs that let you resize windows to specified sizes, but they all seemed too bothersome, too many steps.

Cnet claims they have the freeware version.
http://download.cnet.com/WinSplit-Revoluti...4-10971915.html

As it happens I already had it on my computer but it looks like I never got around to installing it. I'll do that now.
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My version is 11.04 and it clearly states it freeware.

It seems useable. First I didn't think so because it snaps the windows to the corners, but there seems to be a feature to make it remember the position. I haven't figured out how to make the window open at the saved position though...

https://web.archive.org/web/20131210100606/...lution.com/help
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post Apr 3 2017, 07:12 AM
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I've found uses for a maximized window. I have some large tables (spreadsheets) and it's actually great to be able to get an overview without scrolling. And when looking at long lines of code in small textareas at forums. Of course in the last case it's mainly the width one needs but familiar proportions makes it easier to read.
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For maximum eye comfort I recall you're supposed to be eye level with the screen's top edge. Get a lower table. smile.gif


Yeah, I recently heard placing the screen low, I think even lower than that, also helps with dry eyes since the eye lids will cover more of the eye ball then.

Things like that may be easy peasy in an office. Not so easy at home. Especially not with a large screen. You'd need a huge table.
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also helps with dry eyes since the eye lids will cover more of the eye ball then.

Yes that's the point with it, AFAIK. But if the table is too high, maybe you could tilt the screen down towards you instead? Should give the same result as lowering it, except that you must raise your head, but if you lean back in the chair maybe that's not an issue. Not that I understand how you can type with any of these acrobatics. tongue.gif

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Things like that may be easy peasy in an office. Not so easy at home. Especially not with a large screen. You'd need a huge table.

Why is that? AFAIK the only need for a big table is to increase the distance to the screen, but screen height shouldn't be affected by table size, or?

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post Apr 4 2017, 11:23 PM
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At work, the default setup is a docking station with two 24-inch displays. (Some have other setups, but that's the default if you don't request something special.)

Anyway, I find that it works very nicely to have one oriented portrait mode (where I read most text content) and one oriented landscape mode (where I use MS Outlook and other apps that assume a maximized window in landscape orientation).
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Yeah, two screens seems like an ideal setup in many ways, we we're talking about that earlier.

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Why is that? AFAIK the only need for a big table is to increase the distance to the screen, but screen height shouldn't be affected by table size, or?


But we have large screens and need the distance. Isn't the problems with big screens what we are talking about?

Of course, in theory one could use two smaller tables. One for the keyboard and hand writing and a lower one behind that for the screen. If the "writing table" is narrow enough you would still see the screen behind it even if it was lower. You could even use a stand for the screen. One of those TV stands maybe. But for me that would mean ditching another table and I don't want that. Don't have room for an additional setup.

A stand would probably be a good idea anyway, for watching movies or TV comfortably. But I've looked for that before and only found ridiculously expensive ones. Wouldn't need anything fancy, just a stand.
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But we have large screens and need the distance. Isn't the problems with big screens what we are talking about?

Maybe, if it's tall. But on a widescreen most of the size is just extra width, not sure what's the best distance then.

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Of course, in theory one could use two smaller tables. One for the keyboard and hand writing and a lower one behind that for the screen. If the "writing table" is narrow enough you would still see the screen behind it even if it was lower.

I've seen office desks built like that, with two adjustable sections.

How about using a wall mount?

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The top of my new screen is 1 cm higher than the old one. That's quite a lot.

Yeah, if one had special computer room, an office, one could get something like that. But that's not for me. Wall mount seems very inflexible. I don't want to stare into the wall. I've almost always placed my desks so I can look out over the room and towards a window.
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post Apr 5 2017, 07:51 PM
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Here's one that attaches to a table: https://www.komplett.se/product/836092/dato...ordfaste-mm100#

There are also versions that can hold multiple screens.
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Looks quite handy. But it doesn't look like the screen can be placed behind the desk and lower than the desk. But instead of the ordinary rigid stand it must be great. If one can put screws in ones desk...

BTW the stand on my new screen was worth it alone. I just need to touch it and it slides slowly up or down. Very cool. When this screen breaks I'll keep the stand.
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According to the schematic, the actual holder (attached to the center of the screen) can be placed level with the desk, that makes almost half of the screen stay below the desktop. Also it seems to be secured with an ordinary vise, no screws needed.
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Ah, in that case it could be something.
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Actually, one of the programs I rejected turned out to be what I wanted.

http://www.brianapps.net/sizer/

You put the pointer over a corner or edge of a window and right-click. A menu pops up and you can choose the size you want from a list. You can define your own dimensions. Not as easy as ALT + SPACE X, but not so much trouble either. It also shows you the size of the window when you drag to change its size. Quite handy for HTML purposes. If the program would remember the original size and offer a way to go back to that it would be close to perfect.
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