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> Extra top padding in a container when using HTML5 doctype
RainLover
post Mar 24 2014, 12:55 PM
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There is extra top padding in the following div:

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<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en">

<head>
    <meta charset="UTF-8">
    <title>Extra Top Padding</title>
    <style>
        div {
            background: tan;
        }
        div * {
            vertical-align: middle;
        }
        span {
            font-size: 16px;
        }
    </style>
</head>

<body>
    <div id="container">
        <img src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/images/icons/gplus-16.png"><span>Some text</span>
    </div>
    <p id="indicator"></p>
    <script>
        document.getElementById('indicator').textContent = document.getElementById('container').clientHeight;
    </script>
</body>

</html>


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It shows correctly if you use HTML 4.01 Transitional doctype:

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">


Is it a bug in HTML5?
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post Mar 24 2014, 01:21 PM
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No. It's the difference between Strict Mode and Almost Strict Mode. You'd get the same with the HTML 4.01 Strict docype. It's a mess.

https://hsivonen.fi/doctype/
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Frederiek
post Mar 25 2014, 03:03 AM
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And it's the default margin/padding browsers set to BODY. Use a reset.css (e.g. Eric Meyer's reset.css) or simply use:
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* {
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
}

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post Mar 25 2014, 02:00 PM
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Surely that can't end up inside the DIV? unsure.gif
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post Mar 25 2014, 05:45 PM
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Maybe Frederiek is thinking of collapsing margins? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/We...rgin_collapsing

Not sure if a global reset is required for that, though. unsure.gif

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post Mar 26 2014, 04:18 AM
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I'm talking about the default margin browsers set to BODY. In Safari, that margin is 8px on all sides. The DOCTYPE has nothing to do with that.

Sure, a margin: 0; can also only be set to BODY, if you don't want to use a global reset.
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post Mar 26 2014, 04:47 AM
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OK, but the OP asked about the extra padding in the DIV, that's why we didn't understand.
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post Mar 26 2014, 04:53 AM
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The OP called it padding, while in fact it's margin. Maybe just not knowing how to call it.

Otherwise, it's the default top and bottom padding on the P element (1em in Safari, resulting in 16px). In that case, a global reset would eliminate that.
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