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galewis
post Jul 10 2008, 02:02 PM
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I posted this on another board and haven't gotten any nibbles... hope someone here can help.

To begin with a confession, I'm in the process of atoning for past sins. I developed a website in FrontPage. (Yes, I know... hanging head in shame.) It was there, it was easy, and I didn't know any better. Blame me, blame the universe, blame Microsoft... whatever. Now I know better.

Anyway, the site displays fine in Internet Explorer, and I'd like to display the same way in Firefox. For the life of me, I can't figure out what's causing two vertical ruled lines to appear on the site in Firefox. I'm sure they're table or cell borders, but nothing I seem to do will turn them off.

Here is a screen shot of how I want the site to appear in Firefox:

IPB Image

Here is a screen shot of how the site presently appears in Firefox:

IPB Image

The page in question is at

http://www.ncnats.org/template.htm

I understand that the page's code is probably far from standards-compliant. I can live with that for the time being. Right now I'm just looking for a way to make the site look the same in both browsers.

Any assistance will be very much appreciated. Thanks!

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Darin McGrew
post Jul 10 2008, 02:06 PM
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I recommend that you start by fixing the markup errors and CSS errors reported by the online tools.
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galewis
post Jul 12 2008, 08:07 PM
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I appreciate that advice, and you're right that that's the most complete fix. But my goal right now is to remedy just this one problem first. I don't have the time to fix problems that admittedly might otherwise exist but that aren't causing me any difficulty.

If you'd be so kind to indicate exactly what's causing the rules lines to appear in the Firefox example only, I'd really appreciate it. I really am stumped.
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Darin McGrew
post Jul 12 2008, 08:21 PM
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Taking a quick look, it seems that your layout table specifies borders. Maybe your CSS eliminates the borders in MSIE, but standards-oriented browsers ignore your CSS.
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galewis
post Jul 13 2008, 03:34 PM
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I'm sorry... I must be a bonehead. Can you make a more specific recommendation?

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post Jul 13 2008, 04:36 PM
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He's saying fix the CSS errors and remove the border you've put on the nested table. smile.gif


<body bgcolor="#D8ECBC" topmargin="30" style="color: #000000">
<!--msnavigation--><table dir="ltr" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
width="100%"><tr><!--msnavigation--><td valign="top">

<div align="center">
<center>
<table border="2" cellspacing="0" width="85%" id="AutoNumber1" bordercolor="#000000"
cellpadding="0" height="100%" style="border-collapse: collapse; border-style: solid;
border-width: 1">
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post Jul 15 2008, 06:40 AM
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AH!!! Thank you so much! That was the fix I was looking for.
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post Jul 15 2008, 01:10 PM
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We were hoping you would do something about the errors too. wink.gif
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post Jul 26 2008, 09:22 PM
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When the stars align... wink.gif
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post Jul 26 2008, 09:32 PM
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A quick question... though in asking it I'm stepping outside the topic of the original post. blush.gif

I have a folder off the root of the site called 'includes.' In there I've put (what else?) the repetitive code that I'm pulling into other pages with #include virtual. One of those includes is an image map:

CODE

      <map name="FPMap0">
      <area href="/" shape="rect" coords="0, 33, 162, 76">
      <area href="upcoming_events.asp" shape="rect" coords="0, 128, 158, 170">
      <area href="links.asp" shape="rect" coords="0, 404, 162, 449">
      <area href="auditions.asp" shape="rect" coords="0, 174, 159, 221">
      <area href="officers.asp" shape="rect" coords="0, 79, 162, 122">
      <area href="teacher_directory.asp" shape="rect" coords="0, 222, 162, 268">
      <area href="membership.asp" shape="rect" coords="0, 313, 162, 357">
      <area href="auditions_results/index.asp" shape="rect" coords="0, 269, 162, 310">
      <area href="membership/login.asp" shape="rect" coords="2, 359, 162, 402">
      </map>
      <img border="0" src="images/new_menu.jpg" usemap="#FPMap0" width="163" height="481">


My question is this: when a virtual include is referenced in a page that's 2 or 3 levels deep (say /membership/directory/file.asp), are the include's links relative to the the location of the /includes/ folder, or are they relative to the folder of the page with the virtual include?

(Hope that makes sense...)
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post Jul 26 2008, 09:48 PM
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The browser doesn't know or care about the include directory. All the links are relative to the document the browser requested.

Please see the FAQ entry How can I avoid using the whole URL?
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