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Lucas65
post Jul 1 2018, 07:39 PM
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Noob!! When I inspect a page source, say wikipedia.org, my first experience, I find the DOM element for title, double click it, and replace it with "My Wikipedia," Then I hit Enter. However, there is no change in the output sample page. If I refresh, my edit disappears from the source code. I have failed both on Chrome and Edge. What am I doing wrong/

Also, I am low vision and I am having an accessibility issue. If I view "page source," no problem, I can CTRL+. But when I am doing "Inspect Source" and looking at HTML5 DOM elements, CTRL+ fails. I have checked through menus and queried Help. I can find no way to increase the font size to read the code. It is so small for me that I have to hand hold a magnifying glass.

Thank you for any assistance!
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post Jul 1 2018, 08:15 PM
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Since you didn't say which browser you are using I can't help you. But, Firefox does support Ctrl + to increase font size when inspecting an element.
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post Jul 2 2018, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(Lucas65 @ Jul 2 2018, 02:39 AM) *

Noob!! When I inspect a page source, say wikipedia.org, my first experience, I find the DOM element for title, double click it, and replace it with "My Wikipedia," Then I hit Enter. However, there is no change in the output sample page.

Worked for me in new versions of Edge and Vivaldi (Chromium-based).

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If I refresh, my edit disappears from the source code.

That's normal I guess, reloading restores the original source.

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I have failed both on Chrome and Edge. What am I doing wrong/

Are you sure you've edited the right element? Sometimes content doesn't appear where you might think on a web page due to the CSS layout. It could also be that you've edited an element's attribute value instead of its text node.

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Also, I am low vision and I am having an accessibility issue. If I view "page source," no problem, I can CTRL+. But when I am doing "Inspect Source" and looking at HTML5 DOM elements, CTRL+ fails.

Works for me in Edge and Vivaldi. Ctrl + Scrollwheel does not work though. Also make sure you've focused the Inspector windows and not the web page.

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Lucas65
post Jul 2 2018, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(CharlesEF @ Jul 1 2018, 09:15 PM) *

Since you didn't say which browser you are using I can't help you. But, Firefox does support Ctrl + to increase font size when inspecting an element.



Sorry about my omission. I used Edge and Chrome. I will re-check both of these and note Firefox for future reference (not on my computer at this time). Thank you.
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post Jul 2 2018, 05:21 PM
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Noob!! When I inspect a page source, say wikipedia.org, my first experience, I find the DOM element for title, double click it, and replace it with "My Wikipedia," Then I hit Enter. However, there is no change in the output sample page.
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Worked for me in new versions of Edge and Vivaldi (Chromium-based).

Thank you for your efforts to corroborate my failures. CTRL+ is now working on the output for DOM elements in Edge and Chrome, so this must have been a one-off glitch on my part

BTW, I like the default UI rendering of Edge better than I do Chrome's. So that tells me that different browsers render the code UI differently. When I get back to my Linux computer (using a friend's on Windows now), I'm going to try a bunch of browsers: Firefox, Chrome, Chromium, Vivaldi, and some of the various Linux browsers to see how they render. I could then find my favorite browser from a dev point of view, I am realizing.
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post Jul 3 2018, 05:37 AM
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You could also try the "classic" Opera 12.18, it has a lot of great features even though it's not developed anymore.
https://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/1218/int/
http://matejhorvat.si/en/unfiled/opera12.htm

The newer Opera 15 and later is a completely different browser, in fact Vivaldi is more similar to the old one.
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